• doublepepperoni [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    Isn’t this also how they’re going to criminalise being LGBTQ online? Ban porn and also define being visibly not straight as inherently pornographic?

    Don’t they also talk about death penalties for child abuse, ie the endpoint of all the frothing at the mouth about every LGBTQ person being a groomer?

    lol coomers or whatever but this shit is pretty spooky

  • CantaloupeAss [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    i-think-that porn sucks and I hate how pervasive it is in our society, especially on the internet. Any positive thing gets compared to porn, “foodporn”, “map porn”, etc., idk call me puritanical but I just find it gross.

    Also, I’m too young to know the answer to this, but what effect do we think internet porn has had on spawning a generation of incels? Idk what the pre-porn incel market was like.

    Sex is great, intimacy is wonderful, but I don’t like porn.

    Doesn’t mean it should be illegal tho

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      The prevalence of the male incel identity coincides with sexual harassment becoming less socially acceptable.

      That’s the main part of it. It’s the shadow of lingering social misogyny trying to reassert itself through the very real phemenons of alienation and loneliness.

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Sorry but in a communist world, porn would be done away with nobody would have to sell their body or their body-having-sex-as-content in order to put food on the table, pay rent, etc. You gotta really consider how many people in that industry are exhibitionist, how many are escaping bad situations at home, or are groomed by society to see this as an acceptable form of labor, or are being exploited in destructive manners with zero recourse, no better than forced labor. Hypersexuality in teenagers and adults can be a response to domestic violence and abuse, it can be a dissociative way of dealing with unpleasant feelings and stress, and porn consumption, and production can take advantage of that; it also makes it difficult to distinguish between puberty driven desires and societal pressure. Porn can also be the end result of trafficking like European, and specifically Eastern European pornographic rings that are the source of human trafficking.

    Feminists have been debating about the inherent oppressive conditions of sex under a patriarchal and capitalist world. We have to include that into the analysis of the pornographic industry. If the industry was to be tolerated, it would have to be with stringent measures for entry, licensing, testing, and performance procedures that would basically legislate it out of existence.

    • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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      5 months ago

      we don’t live in a communist world and the movement to legislate-it-out-of-existence from the right without solving any of the economic/social cleavages that put people into sex work is just going to escalate the criminal character & make it more dangerous for workers

      i think in the idyllic after-the-revolution there wouldn’t even be a demand for porn production: with the elimination of IP, just go around and obtain consent forms from whichever former performers don’t mind it being out there, & there’d instantly be a huger library of available pornography than anyone could countenance under capitalism. the industry thrives on artificial scarcity and ephemeral availability, but there’s nothing fundamentally new

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        5 months ago

        This is how I see it. The best outlook to end the adult entertainment industry’s abuses isn’t “ban porn,” but rather, it’s “make it redundant by ensuring basic human rights so people do not feel a need to go down that route.”

  • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    This! This will happen the next time a Republican POTUS gets elected. Project 2025 will most definitely turn into 2029 which will turn into 2033 and so and so on. Which I’m begging Dems to whip up their own Project 2025 to make sure that other one doesn’t happen.

    If the Democrats did a project 2025, it would either not exist or be near identical to the Republican one lmao