“Communists” crying over dead occupation soldiers and fascists, equating fascists to those who resist genocide

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    I don’t really understand ultras. They seem to see themselves as being the farthest left you can get while being the stereotypical armchair leftists that talk revolution and do nothing outside of that.

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      4 months ago

      I don’t really understand ultras. They seem to see themselves as being the farthest left you can get while being the stereotypical armchair leftists that talk revolution and do nothing outside of that.

      These aren’t as contradictory as you might think. They claim to be the “most left” because they want to deny the existence of actual leftist movements, because they want to remain in their comfortable armchair and protect their ego. They are leftists to feel good about themselves, not to actually improve things.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      I can still feel bad that millions of Germans got killed. But you know who’s fault that was? Themselves in aggregate and the nazis specifically. I’m not going to defend the average Fritz. Especially because they had all the fucking guns. Armies exist, in theory, to defend their people. The German army failed that task. They should have deposed the nazis and surrendered when their homeland was under invasion. The outcome of the war was settled it just hadnt ended yet. Instead they fought on, more innocents got killed for the egos of their genocidal masters. I can’t defend that shit even on Opposite Day. Fuckin ultras.

      • Shyfer@ttrpg.network
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        4 months ago

        Isn’t that the same logic used to by Israel? “Why don’t the Palestinians just come together and get rid of Hamas? The fact that they don’t proves they are the same or support them.”

    • dRLY [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      They really seem to ignore that said conscripts are more or less handed weapons by the oppressors committing genocide. And puts them in a good position to just take all the weapons they can and build an armed resistance with said weapons. They might have been forced into being there, but they could be finding others and merc-ing the genocidal and apartheid fucks. If the right-wing govs want to unintentionally arm the left and other people that know said govs are evil. Then it seems foolish to not exploit the fuck out of it. Even if the conscripts might have been initially not against their govs. The moment that they wake the fuck up, it is basically still supporting evil if they don’t rebel. Shit is already a war, so the otherwise regular day to day things that might hold someone back are gone. You are either going to be killed for following orders and attacking the oppressed. Or you might get killed for fighting back. If being killed is likely anyway, then fucking at least be on the correct side of shit.