Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

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    5 months ago

    Why is the former president and leader of the one of two political parties not the status quo?

    Gore was status quo, but if he’d won we wouldn’t have had the war in Iraq.

    Hilary was the status quo, but if she won we’d still have Roe v Wade.

    If you vote republican, you will get the status quo with an added disaster or two mixed in.

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      5 months ago

      I don’t believe Thomas Massie, for example, is status quo since he goes against the grain 9 times out of 10.

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        5 months ago

        Yeah and I liked Justin Amash but 1 or 2 local Congress people do not define the party, definitely not enough that anyone should vote Trump because of them.

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          5 months ago

          Agreed. I don’t know if Trump is status quo. He appears to be against the status quo. His actions would prove what side he’s on.

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              5 months ago

              Think you quoted the wrong person… I flourished financially under Trump. As did the rest of the country. No one will forget.