Saw this comment on the commie side of TikTok. My gut tells me this is ultraleft bs, but perhaps my fellow hexbears can educate me on this discussion which I’m sure is not new.

I don’t see how a poor American on food stamps is responsible, even though a systematic analysis reveals that international superexploitation is a thing.

The American proletariat can and should organize in any case. I don’t see how Americans can build any sort of socialist movement if any organization at all is accused of being hypocritical.

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    You’re part of the problem if you solely focus on improving conditions only in rich countries

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      focusing on autarky is fundamentally a socialist thing that all socialist movements end up doing when getting power and it fundamentally fucks over capitalists in other countries. this is already a concern that is solved.

      of course social democracy stuff is cursed, its why its not socialism. it doesnt focus on autarky whatsoever.

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      As if getting exploited in a rich country is nice. Obviously there’s been colonialism etc but life here is pretty shitty in its own unique disgusting way

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        Lil_tank isn’t saying it’s nice, they’re saying there are people around the world with general conditions much worse than what even the homeless experience in the west. Just look at Yemen, Sudan, Palestine, etc.

        We should be fighting to improve living conditions for all people on a global scale.

        In my opinion, if that means the conditions of the global south improve first, I’m totally fine with that. The majority of westerners live in decadence compared to much of the world.

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          Yes I know and I don’t mind conditions improving in the global south first either. The western proletariat has access to everything they need to improve their own conditions.