Saw this comment on the commie side of TikTok. My gut tells me this is ultraleft bs, but perhaps my fellow hexbears can educate me on this discussion which I’m sure is not new.

I don’t see how a poor American on food stamps is responsible, even though a systematic analysis reveals that international superexploitation is a thing.

The American proletariat can and should organize in any case. I don’t see how Americans can build any sort of socialist movement if any organization at all is accused of being hypocritical.

  • orangejuche [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    51·
    5 months ago

    The only reason why america would have an increase in wealth is that there is a large underclass of poc, lgbt, and women workers who aren’t being paid their fair share and are essentially second class citizens, and also this is assuming just equality, equity would require even Black Americans to give up some things. Part of the reparations Black people would make would go back to the global south, because nearly everyone is guilty in the imperial core, even the most vulnerable. The only people under capitalism who are not guilty, which is a very large part of the human population is everyone who is indigenous, a non labor aristocrat worker, nonchristian, nonwhite, nonenglish speaking, a woman. And I’m sure there more factors and not everyone in these groups is not innocent, but generally, I think everyone reading this is guilty, guilt doesn’t exclude you from being a communist, it’s probably the reason why many of us are. We all seen the inequalities in our daily lives, and we have all probably been victims to capitalism at the same time. There are people who have not suffered under capitalism and people who have only suffered and both can be comrades but everyone is somewhere in between I think.

    • Caduceus [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      161·
      5 months ago

      indigenous, a non labor aristocrat worker, nonchristian, nonwhite, nonenglish speaking, a woman

      everyone who speaks english is guilty? every AMAB is guilty? lol deeply unserious.

      • orangejuche [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        English is the language of capital, so yes you are privileged if you speak it. Privilege can not be measured but it does exist, some people got it some people don’t. Being AMAB you’re privileged until you start transitioning, when you do, your privilege goes straight out the window, fucking defenestrated, it’s one of the few ways for someone’s privilege to go into the negatives after birth. I’m sure as society progresses trans people will become a bit more privileged but right now they don’t benefit at all unlike gay, lesbian, and bisexual people. It’s like being a black/white interracial couple in the 50s, sure some lingering oppression still exists today but it’s not exactly revolutionary to be a “race traitor” as it was in the past. Idk, there’s no theory on measuring one’s privilege. It do be deeply unserious