From 3000 daily active users on June 1, 2023 to 47500 on June 26, 2023.
According to Lemmy’s documentation, “An active user is someone who has posted or commented on our instance or community within the last given time frame.”
Sources:
- https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=30
- https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html
EDIT: check out this link for a list of lemmy apps: https://lemmy.world/post/465785
It is very clear that new content per day has been steadily increasing the past 14 days.
Lemmy is no longer just promising, it is already good. With signs of getting even better.
With more active users, more niche communities should soon be able to do fine too.
I already didn’t read past the first few hundred comments on reddit- Lemmy already feels almost as good to use, way more than mastodon did coming from Twitter.
Mastodon is simply not as good. Lemmy achieves its objectives very cleanly and seems to leverage ActivityPub the best in the fediverse by far.
Twitter is also focused around individuals. Reddit around communities. I believe different dynamics of those two are why Lemmy works better.
Watching the last 3 weeks has been exciting. Dead subs springing to life & much more content. New subs every single day.
I think it shows that the great migration from Reddit is actually happening. After the 1st of July, we can expect to see Lemmy growing even more since the changes on Reddit are gonna be in full effect.
Agreed. I imagine the devs and admins here are looking at it as a bit of a deadline of sorts. It’s going to be a big bump in traffic, best to have as much as you can in place.
If you can have useable app out by then, you’ll get a big sudden surge in interest. It’s just a really nice opportunity for an aspiring dev.
I’m really trying, the main thing I miss is the amount of content and the general navigability of reddit. Finding new subs was so easy and lemmy feels harder to just browse imo. I’ve moved to the lemmy RSS and deleted my reddit bookmarks to help keep me from going there out of weakness though.
We’ll see to what degree the migration stays/works. I would be very happy to see some competition in this space.
https://lemmyverse.net/communities
Also native search works pretty well https://sh.itjust.works/search?q=cat&type=Communities&listingType=All&page=1&sort=TopAll
These should help. Definitely agree about the amount of content. There’s a lot of subs that haven’t even migrated over yet.
I think it’s going to be rough for sometime but the numbers seem promising thus far.
Particularly when compared to any other reddit alterative.
It is a bit harder due to fragmentation but it will get better, don’t worry. Also plenty of new upcoming apps.
I won’t use the official Reddit app, so my phone Reddit usage will drop to zero on July 1st.
This is great and exciting news, but we do need to keep things in perspective. Jumping to almost 48,000 daily active users is great, but Reddit has about 55 million. That’s essentially a rounding error as far as Reddit is concerned.
People keep wishing death upon Reddit. I understand the emotion, but I wish Reddit a long life. Let it be the grease trap for doomscrollers, reposters, and political and corporate infiltration. I don’t want millions of people to join Lemmy. I want the mythical 1% active content creators to jump ship.
Yeah, Reddit and 4chan can be containment cesspits while quality discussion moves to Fedi.
I’m curious what the make up of people migrating are. It could be the early adopters that helped Reddit build out the platform ahead of Digg collapsing. It could also be people who were looking for an excuse to leave because they didn’t really like Reddit for one reason or another. I think I fall more in the fed up with Reddit and looking for anyone/anywhere doing it better.
I don’t really see a problem with this. We already have enough that I can comment an engage with people. I can already ask a question and have 50 people give genuine thought out responses.
That’s enough for me.
We’re only on v0.18, some are not going to want a less refine product and that’s okay. We’re here building the momentum for when it’s read for them.
I’m gonna comment so as to be counted as active.
I’m not.
Hey me too!
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Hello there
Raising my hand
It’s not much. But it’s honest work.
Is this were everyone is hanging out today?
Maybe? We’re both here so…
Brilliant.
Reporting in
i opened up this thread with the intention of doing just that— glad to see i’m not the only one lol
So not even counting the lurkers
Yeah, lurkers aren’t counted. Only those who have commented or posted within a specified period.
Worth noting we probably have a much higher engagement percentage than the average atm. Young community, cool new idea, gets people excited. Since the service isn’t really ready for primetime yet, the only way to really pitch in and even just vent enthusiasm is to make content. For most of us that don’t have dev skills anyway.
Is there some metrics showing number of users with interactions like upvote/downtote?
Oh so lurkers aren’t counted as active? That’s even promising since many users on any site never comment or post.
Okay, here’s my first comment.
Your comment was so insightful I just had to upvote it thus increasing ‘engagement’. Am I helping?
Indeed! That would be me, but I would now like to contribute to the totals so I am contributing this fairly worthless comment!
Another relatively useless comment! Just to contribute :)
Every now and then lurkers have to prove we’re still here
I’ve probably posted as much in Lemmy in a couple weeks as I did on reddit in several years, but as the say, be the change you want to see.
I’m pretty bad about that too, better leave a comment.
Not to mention the minute lemmy became promising, bot swarms descended and started making placeholder accounts
this keeps getting touted but isn’t it a huge number of bots causing the rise?
Bots have inflated the total users count (around 2.4 million), but they aren’t active (yet). So for now active users is a recommended way to measure the fediverse. But once bots start posting, we’ll have to find another way to track real user activity.
This is just really disappointing and gross. Is there any way to not have bots absolutely everywhere?
Yeah, it’s absolutely disappointing and gross. Bots have been actively probing for obscure instances without registration validation and flocking to them. Good thing the top real lemmy instances (like lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, beehaw.org, sh.itjust.works, lemmy.ca) have been much more vigilant about that.
Which is a shame, because in theory it seems like creating a self-hosted instance for your personal account has a lot of advantages (not worrying about the host doing something screwy or abandoning the instance, having full control over who you federate with, being able to customize the interface, etc.)
But that may end up going the way of self-hosted email servers, where differentiating yourself from a spam server becomes impossible and everyone ends up on the equivalent of gmail.
Are those instances defederating from the bot-filled ones?
Yeah, those instances are defederating from the bot-filled ones, but new ones are still popping up (although seems to be slowing down a little for now).
I hope there’s some way to block that, bots are useful or funny sometimes (like the ones to download videos, reminders, etc). But I asume most of them have the sole purpose of advertising or brigading.
I can’t wrap my head about Lemmy 0.18 dropping capchas.
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What’s your take on it?
My (different person here) take is it’s probing behavior. Who benefits? Anti-reddit-protest trolls want to see this fail, and some could have the resources. Savvy criminal organizations see potential profit. Major tech companies see at least a research opportunity at minimal expense. White hats want to find and raise awareness of vulnerabilities.
Only governments would really have no major motive beyond the usual surveillance of a social space. So I think the question should really be, who’s not doing it? Because if people aren’t wholesale fucking around yet, they’ll start very soon. It’s only the savvy or lucky that are aware of us still, but that will not be true for long. Snowball is rolling now, that’s pretty plain to see.
I mean, we’re just a big and growing pile of consumers. What else do you do with those?
If we have the ability to identify them or where they’re coming from, could our various platforms just defederate or block the ones who aren’t dealing with the bot problem down the line?
I don’t see how that could be done, the bot owners can always just spin up their own new instance where they control sign up requirements.
Other instances can then defederate from the spam instance but they can quickly spin up a new one.
Gonna be interesting to see how it’s solved.
Require that membership in the Fediverse be approved?
The fediverse is decentralized, anyone can start their own lemmy/kbin/mastodon/whatever server and make an account they just approve themselves.
If you mean some kind of global approval then that destroys the whole point of the fediverse.
This is going to be the real skynet fight.
wait how did we conclude that the bots aren’t active yet?
Because people have been monitoring bot infected instances and have not seen them post or comment (yet).
My understanding is that’s causing the rise in accounts (2.5m!) not the active accounts data
Everyone online is a bot except you.
Beep boop
He’s one of 'em! Shoot!
They made the general user number explode for sure, but those bots are not really active yet, so they don’t count as “active users”.
If they’re like NewsUser and Botittest, the bots will flood this place when they start. Even though these two good bots have made this place a lot more usable, it feels like that’s what the “All” thread has become. Just news.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the news feed, but now I understand why it became a separate thread in Reddit.
Whichever the instances that lowered their guard were, there will be a day they will have to be defederated. It’ll be a test for this place, for sure.
Thank you for showing the growth in ACTIVE users, not just accounts. Its still impressive, and more truthful!
Upping the active count, no lurking for me
There will probably be another bump on July 1st, and probably more to come as Reddit makes more horrible decisions going forward.
100% honestly, I’m not married to the whole concept of the Fediverse - I think it’s interesting and solves some problems plaguing modern social media, but has other issues of its own - but Lemmy has, overall, put out a good showing in the various instances’ content so far. So here I am with an account and actively posting. Looking forward to continued growth!
100% honestly, I’m not married to the whole concept of the Fediverse - I think it’s interesting and solves some problems plaguing modern social media, but has other issues of its own
I’d be curious to learn more about what problems you see? Many of the issues I see people outline come down to defederation and lack of centralization, but I’d argue those are features rather than bugs.
There is work being done to make it easier to track content across identical communities on multiple instances, we’re in very new territory here so the UX is still in flux and being figured out.
Many of the issues I see people outline come down to defederation and lack of centralization, but I’d argue those are features rather than bugs.
This is exactly what I mean. These aren’t dealbreakers, but there are downsides to the way that it’s structured - namely, admins of larger instances making decisions on the behalf of their members that you may not agree with and the relative complication of discovering new communities on other instances compared to Reddit. Reddit had its own issues inherent to its platform (first-come-first-serve with regard to community names, aggressive attempts at monetization), and I think this one will be better off in terms of management because of the decentralized structure, but that same decentralized structure may put off new users and make it harder to grow.
Even if you do nothing else, make sure to upvote content and comments, and subscribe to communities. Bringing content over from reddit (or even just googling stuff) to the new applicable community would be extra helpful (a lot of empty communities at the moment).
Things keep looking better here, so I’m optimistic about lemmy.
Finally I know what counts as an active user thank you!
To be honest, i am using reddit via Apollo and lemmy but as soon as that shuts down im transitioning to lemmy full time.
I’m on some cracked official Reddit app that has the ads fully removed. I am not sure if it will still work afterwards but switching to Lemmy anyway.
+1-I’m doing my part
I’m here to boost that active user number. Hoping this takes off.
Count me in. Now I can resume lurking.
Huzzah!
I just signed up. Coming from reddit. Hopefully this is a good alternative.
We are all testing the waters. After a day i can say that the platform have a huge potential. Just be sure to use a well updated, fully integrated app for the best experience.
I’m really hoping we get more and more users here. I miss having the niche communities that were still populated.
Me too!
I’ve been here for a couple of days, if anything, I’m pleasantly surprised. This is not Reddit’s first clusterfuck, and although there were alternatives at the time. It’s finally nice to find something that isn’t full of bigots.
That has been the great thing about it, rediscovering that people can talk to strangers on the internet and actually be normal about it. Conversations here don’t seem to devolve into fights as they invariably do on mainstream social sites. And I don’t have to keep explaining to people that it’s possible to care about other people, a concept which several people on Reddit told me was incomprehensible to them.
