Everyone I have something very important to say about The Agora.

The Problem

Let me be super clear here to something people don’t seem to understand about lemmy and the fediverse. Votes mean absolutely nothing. No less than nothing.

In the fediverse, anyone can open a instance, create as many users as they want and one person can easily vote 10,000 times. I’m serious. This is not hard to do.

Voting at best is a guide to what is entertaining.

As soon as you allow a incentive the vast majority of votes will be fake. They might already be mostly fake.

If you try to make any decision using votes as a guide someone WILL manipulate votes to control YOU.

one solution (think of others too!)

A counsel of trusted users.

The admin, top mods may set up a group to decide on who to ban and what instances to defederate from. You will not get it right 100% of the time but you also won’t be controlled by one guy in his basement, running 4 instances and 1,000 alts.

Now i’m gonna go back to shit posting.

  • snota@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Bad actors gonna act. How do we determine a council of trusted users? The idea of the agora is to avoid power in the hands of the few because those few might be or become the problem.

    I’m not saying your argument is wrong but if someone wants to manipulate a community bad enough, they will find a way.

    When the community it big enough to worry about voter manipulation then there will be resources to counter it.

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      1 year ago

      Feels kinda big now. Anyway I don’t think you are gonna get better than a few trusted users. Federation already protects against power being in the hands of a few or one.

      I just have seen so much manipulation in voting and trolling I don’t see why anyone would think votes from anonymous users mean anything at all.