Everyone I have something very important to say about The Agora.

The Problem

Let me be super clear here to something people don’t seem to understand about lemmy and the fediverse. Votes mean absolutely nothing. No less than nothing.

In the fediverse, anyone can open a instance, create as many users as they want and one person can easily vote 10,000 times. I’m serious. This is not hard to do.

Voting at best is a guide to what is entertaining.

As soon as you allow a incentive the vast majority of votes will be fake. They might already be mostly fake.

If you try to make any decision using votes as a guide someone WILL manipulate votes to control YOU.

one solution (think of others too!)

A counsel of trusted users.

The admin, top mods may set up a group to decide on who to ban and what instances to defederate from. You will not get it right 100% of the time but you also won’t be controlled by one guy in his basement, running 4 instances and 1,000 alts.

Now i’m gonna go back to shit posting.

  • LizardKing@sh.itjust.works
    4712·
    1 year ago

    Based on your username and post history it’s pretty clear why you’re against the democratic process.

    This is not a safe space for people that believe the way you do. This will never be a haven for hateful ignorance like yours.

    Try Parler, or or one of the other right wing echo chambers.

    Stop trying to turn this website into your own personal hateful circlrjerk, it’s not gonna happen.

    This place is not for you.

      • LizardKing@sh.itjust.works
        368·
        1 year ago

        I’m not on an alt. I’m getting upvotes because I’m right and you’re wrong. What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you trying to troll? Is this your sad attempt at trolling?

        You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Just stop trying. Your username alone proves that you’re a bullshit liar and here in bad faith.

        Go away.

        • Black Conservative@sh.itjust.worksOP
          1138·
          1 year ago

          You have not even remotely addressed my concerns. You have not disproven them. They are demonstrably true. Your refusal to address them is further proof it’s a valid concern

          • God@sh.itjust.works
            141·
            1 year ago

            What is demonstrably true should be demonstrated to demonstrate its demonstrability.

          • HaveYouTriedCats@sh.itjust.works
            142·
            1 year ago

            Given that your account showed up immediately during the defederation of sh.itjustworks discussion and the removal of a certain account and community, I think the bad faith argument is valid.

            • MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works
              22·
              1 year ago

              For one, a ton of new users are coming in from reddit as of recent. Hardly seems unusual to complain if an instance that seemed like something they’d enjoy makes changes they don’t enjoy.

              Secondly, why is it bad faith if he came from another instance after it was defederated? If he enjoyed the content here, but was blocked from actually interacting with it, would it not be a reasonable decision to make an account here?

              • HaveYouTriedCats@sh.itjust.works
                21·
                1 year ago

                I should clarify, it wasn’t the beehaw defed. It was the notification that our defederation was being discussed elsewhere, the Donald community was closed, and users were banned, which did not occur with the beehaw defed.

                At the time of that ban, this user came, with similar though less antagonistic talking points, replying in the same thread as their only activity as a registered user, and has since deleted their comments in that thread.

                It is possible it’s in good faith, though given the above experience, I find it less likely.