Everyone I have something very important to say about The Agora.

The Problem

Let me be super clear here to something people don’t seem to understand about lemmy and the fediverse. Votes mean absolutely nothing. No less than nothing.

In the fediverse, anyone can open a instance, create as many users as they want and one person can easily vote 10,000 times. I’m serious. This is not hard to do.

Voting at best is a guide to what is entertaining.

As soon as you allow a incentive the vast majority of votes will be fake. They might already be mostly fake.

If you try to make any decision using votes as a guide someone WILL manipulate votes to control YOU.

one solution (think of others too!)

A counsel of trusted users.

The admin, top mods may set up a group to decide on who to ban and what instances to defederate from. You will not get it right 100% of the time but you also won’t be controlled by one guy in his basement, running 4 instances and 1,000 alts.

Now i’m gonna go back to shit posting.

  • nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Then we lose basically all voting power and it’s just people who don’t represent the community voting on behalf of us. There should be some limit on the voting like old users with posts and comments that consistently post and engage with the community. I don’t think there are that many botted accounts on this instance yet.

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      1 year ago

      I think rather than voting we have discussions. It’s a bit more complicated than writing an up voting script and will hopefully get points across that a mere yes/no would never.

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      1 year ago

      It’s just gonna be a race to see who can have the most alts.

      Bots are everywhere here BTW. And because of federation bots from other instances can be used here .

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        1 year ago

        This is assuming complete inactivity on the side of the admin & mods. When issues arise, we can address them.

        To paraphrase many people in these comments: the baby may be yeeted into the stratosphere, but the bathwater has the potential to maybe have some fungus grow in it! Shoot the lot into space.