Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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      anyone can start their own media without suppression.

      yeah until you get popular and you suddenly have 3 bullet wounds to the back of the head, if you somehow even have the money to start a media outlet that challenges state power

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          please for the love of god actually look into how the world works. How do you suppose that people will learn about your new resource? the power of friendship? how do you hire the journalists needed to expand your sources? All this shit takes capital dumbass, me and you would never be able to get the capital to run something like that unless we were already rich by other means, media is a saturated field.

          And good fucking god do you really think coups and assassinations don’t happen anymore? the US was just exposed for couping pakistan, and Julian Assange is going to rot in prison for the rest of his miserable short life for exposing US war crimes and secrets, you literally know fucking nothing about the world this is embarrasing

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          Anyone can make their own website and post whatever they want.Ho

          fucking shit this is so disengenuous. There is a difference between MAINSTREAM media and just the general posting of average people online. If you think they give a fuck what you post online I recommend you go to weibo and actually take a look, you will find people posting all sorts of shit.

          The only thing they truly give a fuck about are the mainstream and people of real influence, celebrities, the rich, etc.

          Also free speech is being able to say what you want to whomever you want. Like protesting.

          You are out of your mind if you don’t think protesting happens in China. It’s provably false in seconds of effort to look it up. What you’re not allowed to do is advocate for the destruction of the Chinese state, just like you’re not allowed to do that in every fucking country, including the west. There are protests for all kinds of shit every day otherwise. Workers rights, improving conditions, fixing shit, etc etc.

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            What you’re not allowed to do is advocate for the destruction of the Chinese state, just like you’re not allowed to do that in every fucking country, including the west.

            Of fucking course am I allowed to do that.

            Also, like I said go to bed, it’s very late in the UK.

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                I don’t live in a police state so I don’t feel the need to protest.

                But yes I think the discussion can end here.

                I hope that one day you get that freedom of press and speech is a good thing, until then, have a nice day.

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                  “My country is better because it gives me the right to do something that I would openly never do nor recommend of my fellow citizens of that country”

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                    Just because I don’t feel the need to do it doesn’t mean I wouldn’t do it. Huge difference. If you don’t see the difference you should really go somewhere else.

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                Why would I advocate for the assassination of literally anyone? I am not crazy. Also I am not American.

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                  So you are happy with the fact that your head of state is performing genocide against the poor, the marginalized, and citizens of the 3rd world? That’s a bit crazy man ngl

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                    Yeah, that’s a bit overblown.

                    I won’t even make a proper response to such a crazy ass hyperbole statement.

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          In the capitalist world the rich and the poor are both equally free to sleep under a bridge! Likewise anybody is free to start or buy a billion dollar media press outlet or social media giant, that’s why it’s important that no restrictions are ever placed on false and harmful reactionary speech!

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