Hi! I am a member of a race education group in my school (11 to 18). We were discussing instances of racism and came to the conclusion that the school - teachers, especially - were not giving proper or effective repercussions for racist incidents. Racism in the school is quite normalised, especially against Black and Asian students, including:

CW: list of racist incidents
  • Calling black people “monkeys”, unnecessarily calling them “fast” and that they “should be at the back of the bus”
  • Playing stereotypical Indian music and linking brown people to “curry” and tech-support scammers
  • The Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees chant and mocking the Chinese language

Most teachers report the incident, triggering an investigation into what happened; the student(s) are usually suspended - possibly being temporarily transferred to another school - the offending student(s) are talked to by senior staff members and attend anti-racism sessions. This approach feels appropriate, although I want to hear your thoughts on it as racism is still a significant issue in the school.

In addition, quite a few teachers instead push to “settle the matter” in-class (say sorry, shake hands) or give lesser punishments that are intended for things like swearing or talking over the teacher. These are not appropriate punishments and shouldn’t be tolerated. Bigotry is never equivalent to just rude behaviour or minor arguments (that includes bullying).

The school administration has been made aware of our thoughts and fortunately they are very open to the idea of writing a clearer and more effective policy on racism in the school.

Do teachers need to be trained better on their tolerance of racism? Is the policy not corrective enough? How would you write a racism policy for a school for 11 to 18 year olds?

Thanks again!

  • GaveUp [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    4 months ago

    I would personally do a policy to post their pictures on the walls and publicly shame them for their offence with that. Teaches them its not acceptable and that it’s something they should be shunned by everybody for. Could help create a mob mentality against racism too

    • temp_acc [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      3·
      4 months ago

      I would personally do a policy to post their pictures on the walls and publicly shame them for their offence with that. Teaches them its not acceptable and that it’s something they should be shunned by everybody for. Could help create a mob mentality against racism too

      Quite a few of us in the group did consider this idea, but I highly doubt the school would allow that as the students and parents may see it as a form of harassment. We would like more combative measures against racism, though.

      Digressing: don’t have much experience with this unfortunately because in my highschool that had Chinese people as the plurality race and less white people than POC, there was actually very little racism, and the one small group of white kids who hated Asians transferred out specifically there were too many Asians so they kinda solved our own problems for us

      That does sound like a more welcoming space! In your case, the varying attitudes towards racism between white and non-white people was very apparent to the point that racism wasn’t even an issue. I did discuss the idea that white people have to do more to combat racism as they will naturally find it harder to condemn something they don’t experience in this comment.

      • GaveUp [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        4 months ago

        but I highly doubt the school would allow that as the students and parents may see it as a form of harassment

        Is there any harm in pitching the idea? Obviously not as your only one but as part of a group of solutions for your teachers to okay and sign off on

        Could even do some sly tricks where most of the options are obvious No but then sneak this option in as the “moderate” position

        • temp_acc [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          3·
          4 months ago

          Is there any harm in pitching the idea? Obviously not as your only one but as part of a group of solutions for your teachers to okay and sign off on

          Not really, though I am certain that that policy would not be allowed. Maybe I’ll pitch it as part of a range of possible approaches, although the policy itself is a major privacy violation (along with legal repercussions), especially as the students are children.

          I do like the idea of publicly shaming students, though. What do you think about these approaches?

          • Name-and-shame lists in classrooms:
            • Consistent source of shame for the student, though this approach would be more effective for younger students than older students.
          • Public apology:
            • The offending student(s) would apologise in an assembly in front of the students in their grade. Would greatly increase their shame and hold them to account in front of all of their classmates.

          Admittedly, it’s hard thinking of policies centred around public shaming without being too oriented towards younger students (below 11) or being legally questionable for children (above 18). I’m sure that your idea would be more accepted in a university, for example.

          Could even do some sly tricks where most of the options are obvious No but then sneak this option in as the “moderate” position

          Haha tempting but I don’t know if that will work as a strategy! Though in our meetings with school leadership, I’m sure that individual members will make similar points to the ones that you are making to see how receptive they are to them.

          • GaveUp [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            2·
            4 months ago

            What do you think about these approaches?

            I’m hesitate to give any advice since I know nothing about your school and this situation. I also wasn’t involved in any hs activities