• volodya_ilich
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    3 months ago

    Marx’s point wasn’t the complete elimination of corruption, but the elimination of the exploitation of the working class by the owning class. This has historically happened in several countries and can (and will) happen again.

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      3 months ago

      the elimination of the exploitation of the working class by the owning class

      But not the elimination of exploitation. In which case: meh.

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        3 months ago

        But not the elimination of exploitation

        There’s no surplus labour extraction, hence no exploitation

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          LOL you’re deluded. What does it mean for there to be corruption without exploitation? Corruption is a form of exploitation.

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            Corruption isn’t systematic, it’s an isolated and illegal activity, unlike extraction of surplus value in capitalism which is legal and encouraged and systematic. The extent of corruption is orders of magnitude below capitalist exploitation.

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              Corruption isn’t systematic, it’s an isolated and illegal activity

              LOL

              The extent of corruption is orders of magnitude below capitalist exploitation.

              I see.

              Well, good luck.

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                Dude, you’re deluded if you think capitalist exploitation is even close to corruption in communism. There was no Bezos and no Elon in the USSR. There were no yatchs and hookers. There were no homeless workers, or workers without access to healthcare. The inequality was extremely low compared to Capitalism, even comparing workers with your dreaded “bureaucracy”. The fact that you’d even compare the both just shows how stupidly uneducated you are in this.

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                  3 months ago

                  stupidly

                  O_o

                  uneducated

                  I’m not going to waste my time learning about a field that brings no solution to the table.

                  in the USSR … The inequality was extremely low compared to Capitalism

                  Six inch knife vs twelve inch knife yawn

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                    3 months ago

                    Big quantitative differences turn into qualitative differences. But thank you for finally admitting you’re talking out of your ass