The statue commemorating Anne Frank, one of the most famous victims of the Holocaust, was defaced with pro-Palestinian graffiti for the second time on Sunday.

The statue is located in Merwedeplein, near the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam.

According to images published on X, the base of the statue was spray-painted with the slogan “Free Gaza” while the girl’s hands were painted with the same red color, AFP reported.

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    It’s not anti semitic it’s anti zionic, Otto famously refusing to move to Israel and instead to iirc Switzerland.

    The fact people know who Anne is and what the protest is about makes it very telling when people say it’s anti semitic in the same way people say being anti zionic is anti semitic.

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      Anne Frank has nothing to do with Zionism. She was dead long before the formation of Israel. She represents the suffering, struggles, and genocide of the Jews at the hands of the Nazis.

      It would be like walking up to a Jewish person, regardless of their position on Zionism, and punching them in the face and then trying to claim it isn’t antisemitism but a protest against Zionism.

      Sorry, but it is. They might not realize that they are blaming all Jews for Zionism, but that’s precisely what they are doing.

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        Wrong, she’s a famous public figure who’s family are openly anti Israeli. Neither her not her father Otto are likely to take issue to drawing attention to genocide… You know being arguably the most famous victim of it. But no no she’s a Jew that’s all she’ll ever be, you’re right how shameful of me to suggest otherwise.

        Not at all the same, who’s harmed here? Your best example is actual physical violence when we’re talking about inanimate property.

        Nope what you’re doing is implying that because she is a new she cannot be a symbol for Palestinians actively being genocided by members of her faith.

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          But no no she’s a Jew that’s all she’ll ever be, you’re right how shameful of me to suggest otherwise.

          Wait, you’re arguing that her family would be for them defacing her memorial? Wow. No wonder you have to make up my position.

          But no no she’s a Jew that’s all she’ll ever be, you’re right how shameful of me to suggest otherwise.

          What if they painted a swastika on it? No one was harmed. Is that also nothing like the analogy I made?

          Nope what you’re doing is implying that because she is a new

          No, what I’m saying is that targeting her for the protest, when she has nothing to do with Israel, makes it pretty clear they are targeting her because she is a jew. If you want to deface a genocide memorial to make your point about Gazans being the victim of genocide, it wouldn’t expose your antisemitism if you targeted memorials of victims other genocides.

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            No, I suggested her family would be ashamed of you for reducing her to just a jew, you ignore the genocide victim section and instead claim antisemitism solely because she’s Jewish.

            That’s hate speech, there’s laws for that. There isn’t for making valid comparisons.

            She may have nothing to do with Israel, but she has everything to do with genocide, the fact you can’t see that over her religion is the fucking point.

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              No, I suggested her family would be ashamed of you for reducing her to just a jew

              I certainly never did anything of the sort. Which is what I mean about making up my position. You can’t debate what I said, so you have to make up something ridiculous to attack.

              But this still doesn’t answer my question. We are talking about someone defacing her memorial, and you said “Neither her not her father Otto are likely to take issue to drawing attention to genocide.”

              I can only interpret this one of two ways: either you think they would be okay with people defacing her memorial, or you think that I’m against drawing attention to genocide. I can assure you the latter is not true, but can you explain? Maybe I’m missing something.

              you ignore the genocide victim section and instead claim antisemitism solely because she’s Jewish.

              I very explicitly told them what they could do about the genocide part of it without exposing their antisemitism.

              the fact you can’t see that over her religion is the fucking point.

              Again, many other genocide memorials one could deface, including right in Amsterdam. You seem to be projecting: you think that I’m focusing solely on her being Jewish, while you are seemingly ignoring it from your point.

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                You are though, the fact you don’t see it is my point.

                They wouldn’t have an issue with someone spattering a statue with paint to draw attention to something she died from and he lived through. No, that seems like common sense and Otto talked quite a bit about his feelings about genocide. I’m not even sure how you screwed up plain English that badly unless you’re simply trying to twist what I said.

                They would be ok with someone defacing the memorial to draw attention to genocide, notice that haven’t made a statement something they would do of it bothered them. I’m saying your actions say you’re against drawing attention to genocide, your motivations may be different but looking from the outside in reducing someone to a jew and not a icon is pretty shitty behavior.

                How did they expose their anti semitism? As far as I’m aware all they did was paint pro Palestine stuff, there’s no indication as far as I’m aware that any of it was directly anti semitic only that people have taken it that way because she is Jewish.

                Are the others as famous? No? Are they Jews? No. You want then to “protest the right way” you’re part of the problem.

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                  that seems like common sense

                  You’re confusing what you want to be true with “common sense.” I’m not saying you are wrong, I don’t know the man so to me it’s “common sense” not to speak for him, but I find it terribly presumptuous to believe that they would be okay with this.

                  I’m saying your actions say you’re against drawing attention to genocide

                  It’s a ridiculous logic jump from because I think their actions are antisemitic, that means I’m against drawing attention to the genocide. It’s the same exact ridiculously baseless logic that Netenyahu and so many Zionists are using to paint any protest of their actions as antisemitism. It’s shocking to see it used “in reverse.”

                  but looking from the outside in reducing someone to a jew and not a icon is pretty shitty behavior.

                  It’s kind of hilarious for you to use this argument while arguing that it’s ridiculous to assume that defacing the a jewish memorial is antisemitic, when there is zero link for the former and a pretty glaring one for the latter.

                  You want then to “protest the right way” you’re part of the problem.

                  Again, putting words in my mouth. I’m just pointing out how defacing a memorial of a jewish person that has nothing to with Zionism reeks of antisemitism. Also, funny, how you telling me protesting their actions with my words is wrong and I’m against drawing attention the genocide, are basically telling me to “protest the right way.” What’s good for the goose, my friend.

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                    Are you seriously arguing the family wouldn’t want genocide bright to light? Are you actually dumb are just choosing idiotic arguments. Maybe I do, the family isn’t hidden of you cared you’d reach out but you’d rather be enraged than involved in a meaningful way.

                    Your comment just now doesn’t make it seem any less like your pro genocide dude, your honestly arguing that the family might be pro genocide.

                    You’re only keeping nety by being so reductive you don’t see the reason why Anne frank is the perfect icon for this.

                    Defacing a genocide memorial to bring light to genocide isn’t anti semitic, it’s apt and you’re blind. It’s what I mean when I say you reduce her to solely a Jew.

                    No I’m using your statements against you, stop saying crazy shit and it won’t be as easy.

                    I’m not telling you how to do anything, I’m calling out your bigoted bullshit.