Don’t go to the actual museum in Vietnam, watch the netflix show instead. michael-laugh

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    https://www.willflyforfood.net/war-remnants-museum-a-grisly-reminder-of-the-vietnam-war-in-ho-chi-minh-city/

    For people who haven’t clicked the link yet, heavy NSFL warning; there’s pics of children born with deformities. (Although thank you for the link honestly)

    What disgusts me as well (even looking at the portion talking about the crimes of the French against the Vietnamese people) is that it’s being conducted by people who even then, not merely today, thought they were superior to the people they were conducting horrific crimes against. I genuinely hope the global South deepens ties with China and Russia; Imperialist governments are a cancer on this world.

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      Every so often I see twitter fights about who ‘really’ won the war, americand saying ‘well we killed more people so we won’ are you really proud of that? yeah congratulate yourself on destroying thousands of families for a war you had no reason to start. When the hegemony fails, that will be the legacy of your country.

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        Honestly it’s the stupidest argument to even have; Our government didn’t fight for us, they fought because communism was a danger to the status quo that benefits corporations; they literally fought the common working man. Our troops committed horrific atrocities to innocent people for the benefit of the ultra wealthy and they suffered and died for nothing, and they were absolutely at fault for every crime they did as opposed to people’s claims; they didn’t have to be there, the punishment for refusing the draft wasn’t a death penalty, it was prison and a fine; like honestly what’s worse, a prison sentence or a literal warzone? Comparatively the people of Vietnam fought for their country, they died to save their country from foreign oppression. Loss to a Vietnamese fighter meant the death and torture of his people, loss to a US soldier just means death.

        We the people, we the people bickering on twitter or any other social media had nothing to win or lose in this struggle; identifying with our government that did not operate with our interest as a goal is stupid; and despite how much I despise the pigs in uniform, for all the people who think there’s something to win or lose in this struggle, the real victory is stopping your family from serving in the military or stopping them from leaving the country to go kill innocents in a foreign country for nothing.

        The Vietnamese are the only ones who can honestly say they fought for their country; our troops fought because they were too stupid to tell that a warzone is worse than prison and because they’re just hired thugs, just glorified mercenaries. To all the people crying about ‘tHeY ToRtUrEd oUr tRoOpS’: good; the worthless rats should’ve stayed home; or hey, crazy thought: there was also the option of defecting to the Vietnamese side. Literally so many options to pick from other than murdering innocents for cash/corporations. There were people who literally moved to Canada to get away from it. The only real heroes on our side were literally the ones who avoided serving; I’m glad some people like Hugh Thompson actually did something to stop a massacre, but he also shouldn’t have been there (and worse than him are the people who harassed him for so much of his life because of his stopping a massacre and reporting it, rather than harassing the war criminals who treated the lives of the Vietnamese people as sport).

        Literally the people of Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Korea and many, many other nations are all owed justice, justice far beyond what our country can ever hope to give. They were human beings; they’re not video game sprites that only exist at the moment they’re murdered and then cease to exist. They went through their childhoods and teen years with their families, all hoping to make their lives great, only to have our losers show up, destroy their lives and then leave; and then whoever are left from these families have to pick up the pieces and make their lives work after having it brutally shattered. There is zero shame in our country for what we did there; for everything we say about ‘that war was a mistake’/‘that war was unjust’, the losers who say this still show respect like mindless sheep to ‘veterans’ (baby killers) and we have actual conventions for these war criminal losers to gather together. When you ask people what they think our government does wrong, there’s always that inevitable complaint about not treating ‘the veterans’ right; those ‘veterans’ are nothing more than American ISIS, or American wehrmacht.