He’s had yet another horrible week. The old tricks aren’t working. Kamala Harris does not fear him. And it’s showing in the numbers.

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    Absolutely none of those protestors believe Trump would be better for Palestine. They believe genocide is criminal, and immoral — and can’t in good conscience stand behind anyone who supports or enables it, regardless of the threat of something worse.

    It may not be diplomatic or cunning, but it isn’t rocket science. It’s called morality and conviction. Don’t be disingenuous.

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      It’s not being ‘disingenuous’ it’s about living in the real world.

      Back in the day, there were escaped slaves and women who couldn’t vote who worked for politicians who couldn’t assure them that, if elected, they would be able to actually change the laws.

      There were plenty of African Americans who volunteered for WW2, knowing first hand about the Jim Crow laws. They decided that supporting the US was the best way to stop something worse.

      If you fight against a Joe Biden, knowing that the Trump will be worse, you’re not being moral.

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      I don’t think you, or other idiots who were willing to give up their vote to allow Trump to win an destroy Palestine, have any fucking idea just how bad it will get if he wins.

      Maybe your conscious will be clear, but you will have been directly responsible for the deaths of millions of Palestinians due to your inaction.

      That is the reality.

      There is no “do nothing” here. Doing nothing is tantamount to aiding in the complete destruction of the Palestinian state and its people. You should be ashamed.

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        Maybe your conscious will be clear, but you will have been directly responsible for the deaths of millions of Palestinians due to your inaction.

        Using that logic, the people who supported Biden are directly responsible for the 40,000+ Palestinians who’ve been killed during his presidency.

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        Well you’re wrong in multiple ways. Firstly, I’m not American. Secondly, If I were American I would’ve voted Democrat my entire life, including for Biden and any corporate whore they put forward in a skin suit — probably longer, and more well-informed about the nuances of modern American politics, than you ever will be — but just because I’ll suck it up and eat the shit sandwich doesn’t mean I’m not gonna call the Democrats corporate whores or genocide enablers, because that is what they objectively are.

        There’s a real simple solution here. Stop funding and arming a genocidal ethnostate! What a radical concept, huh?

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          I’m not American.

          Then I’ll explain how the political system works.

          A lot of people in the USA like the ethnostate and are happy to keep it going.

          If the people who oppose it try to just cut funding they will be voted out and can do nothing.

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            A lot of people in the USA like the ethnostate and are happy to keep it going.

            Mate, I already know America’s a proto-fascist failed state. You’re not making a solid case for the continuation of American democracy if the majority support genocide. The majority of Germans supported Hitler. But congrats, I guess?

            Luckily for you, even with a media wholly owned and operated by an oligarchy who profits from eternal war, there is a solid division in supporting the ethnostate among the people. They just care more about domestic problems and defeating Trump than the oligarchs crimes in the middle east. It’s understandable, considering most of what the people actually want is completely ignored by politicians on both sides of the aisle anyway.