• mathemachristian[he]
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    2 months ago

    Well Harris’ campaign promise is that Americas going to have the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.

    So, yeah the genocide will continue.

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      2 months ago

      Why are you leaving out the rest of the paragraph from that speech? She spent more time talking about the needs of Palestinians and working on an immediate ceasefire.

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        2 months ago

        When she says “ceasefire” she’s talking about finding ways to make docile liberals okay with dragging this whole genocide out longer. Harris could stop it in a concrete way by halting all the bomb and missile shipments until they run out of ammo and have to come beg for more again. That then gives you leverage to say “stop indescriminantly murdering civilians, r*ping prisoners, and assassinating the person you’re supposed to be negotiating with”

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          2 months ago
          • So we don’t want a ceasefire? WHAT?

          • And you think Israel is only buying weapons from the US…?

          • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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            2 months ago
            • So we don’t want a ceasefire? WHAT?
              

            weasel politicians have discovered that you don’t need to do anything, you simply need to say you’re doing something, and change the meaning of the word. ‘ceasefire’ as the democrats now speak about it, is too little, too late. Especially considering they have been the administration bypassing congress to send weapons to the ongoing massacre.

            • And you think Israel is only buying weapons from the US…?

            If it was viable for the settler entity to support itself, why are the Democrats so quick to send them bombs to murder civilians with? Cut them off.

            • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              politicians say stuff and lie

              That’s not an argument. There is nothing for me to engage with.

              I think you’re right and you shouldn’t bother to vote. What’s the point?

              • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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                2 months ago

                I am right and I still vote, but this is not a democracy, that’s mostly my issue. If Democrats are not going to meaningfully distinguish themselves from Republicans when it comes to how they treat people who look like me, why should I treat them with any less scorn?

                • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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                  2 months ago

                  Are any Republicans calling for a ceasefire? You can’t in one breath admonish them for misleading you then in the other call for them to set policy.

                  I understand the frustration. I really do.

                  Whether justly or not, Israel is a long time ally in a region that is very unstable (I’m talking beyond Palestine/Israel).

                  I don’t know what the right answer is. But between one side that wants to turn Palestine to glass and the other that wants to work towards a ceasefire, I’ll go with the latter. I’d love it if the US froze all weapons sales too.

                  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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                    2 months ago

                    I can express my total disgust with the people representing me, while still not wanting worse to happen.

                    The issue is that our military support of our colonies is emeshed with our political system to the point where de-escalation is impossible. This is not something which has been arrived at democratically and I don’t have much confidence it can be solved in the existing “democratic” process.