• GoodEye8
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    2 months ago

    Ah, the “God is real because you can’t disprove him” argument. This is Idealism, and you are inventing reality to suit your personal narrative.

    Except my argument stands on the fact that there’s an official loophole. Do you have any actual argument to back up the votes weren’t fudged beyond “I want to believe the soviets were nice people”?

    You’re free to go find the official voting information yourself, I’m not going to dig into that materials again just to find a document you most likely can’t read because you can’t read Russian.

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      2 months ago

      Except my argument stands on the fact that there’s an official loophole. Do you have any actual argument to back up the votes weren’t fudged beyond “I want to believe the soviets were nice people”?

      So does the “God is real because you can’t disprove him” argument. It stands that you have precisely no evidence and yet fully believe what you made up.

      You’re free to go find the official voting information yourself, I’m not going to dig into that materials again just to find a document you most likely can’t read because you can’t read Russian.

      Google translate exists, go for it. Find evidence for your claims and beliefs.

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        2 months ago

        Right. I misremembered, it wasn’t in Russian. Here you go

        Viimased kanded lõplikku nimekirja tegi jaoskonnakomisjon valimispäeval, fikseerides valimissedelite väljaandmise. Vahemärkusena väärib selle toimingu juures mainimist seik, et valijailt kinnitust sedeli kättesaamise kohta ei võetud, seda asendas komisjonipoolne märge. Valimismäärustikud kõnealust detaili ei kajasta, kuid viite kirjeldatud toimimisviisile võib leida nimekirjade koostamise tehnilisest juhendist. (7) Esmapilgul võib asi paista vähetähtis, kuid see andis jaoskonnakomisjonide käsutusse lihtsa viisi ise „hääli kasti pannes” nõutav valimistulemus tagada. Selle kohta võib mälestustes viiteid leida juba alates Riigivolikogu valimistest 1940. a. suvel

        The (7) reference there is for “ERA, f. R-437, n. 1, s. 1.” which is the official document that isn’t digitized. However you can take a trip to the Estonian national archives and you can request access to it. You can do that here

        Now, where is your proof?

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            2 months ago

            Since you want to play that game let’s go back to the original argument

            You were allowed to have different ifeas, voice them, and vote on them.

            Where is the evidence for this?

            • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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              2 months ago

              You can read This Soviet World or Blackshirts and Reds, if you’d like. There have been numerous books on the subject. You can even check the Wikipedia page for Soviet Democracy, the bit from Pat Sloan is especially relevant.

              I have, while working in the Soviet Union, participated in an election. I, too, had a right to vote, as I was a working member of the community, and nationality and citizenship are no bar to electoral rights. The procedure was extremely simple. A general meeting of all the workers in our organisation was called. by the trade union committee, candidates were discussed, and a vote was taken by show of hands. Anybody present had the right to propose a candidate, and the one who was elected was not personally a member of the Party. In considering the claims of the candidates their past activities were discussed, they themselves had to answer questions as to their qualifications, anybody could express an opinion, for or against them, and the basis of all the discussion was: What justification had the candidates to represent their comrades on the local Soviet?

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                2 months ago

                Anyone can write about how they could voice ideas and vote on them but where the proof of anyone actually voicing and idea and there being voting on it?

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                  2 months ago

                  Are you asking seriously? This happened countless times, you need only understand the Soviet system of Democracy to realize this. Hell, you can read a Wikipedia page on the subject if you wish. There’s also the Soviet Archvies, anecodtes from travelers like Pat Sloan, diaries, journals, newspaper articles, and so forth, though most are in Russian and never translated.

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                    2 months ago

                    If it’s so easy to show, show me.