• blame [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    on the other hand, stop putting apps in webpages

    • Apps were not supposed to be given a constrained execution environment that is years behind what the hardware can do
    • Years of internet and no real world use-case for using anything other than Lotus 123
    • Wanted to do something else for a laugh? We had a tool for that: It was called “Games”
    • “Yes please let my hardware be useless without internet access” - Statements dreamed up by the utterly Deranged
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      Bold of you to assume that the websites wrapped up as apps are in any way useful if you lose internet access.

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      Service workers are supported by every web browser and enable websites to work offline. They can even do periodic background pushes/refreshes.

      My dream is that one day PWAs replace 90% of apps in existence today.

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          depends what the app is. If its proprietary trash I’m forced to interact with because capitalism, you know I want it in firefox with ublock and as locked down as possible.

          If it’s something relatively trivial I use once or twice and never think about it again? Better to not have that lingering around on my device.

          A good web app is leagues better than several bad native apps, but good, standards-based native apps are almost always better. I’m taking libreoffice over google docs any day, but for more obscure stuff a web-app means I can run it on any device with a browser, not just whatever single OS it was developed and maintained for.

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    First, there was web browsers which you could use to access most everything on the net. Then came apps. Then people started getting sick of having too many apps and started wanting all-in-one apps madeline-deadpan

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    I used to work on the notification system of a big crypto exchange before I got fired for being a shit employee lmao

    Other that a few intensive purposes like Uber, TikTok, Google Maps type apps, companies only create apps and heavily push you to download them so they can shove push notifications to your phone. It’s basically impossible to do 99% of that using a website (fine grained controls of what notifications, collecting analytics, delivery speed, proper scheduling, etc.) cause then you’d have to go through the browser’s notification system

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      Yeah. I bought a TV a few months back using a store’s credit card. 12 months interest free. Sweet.

      Every month I visit the site and pay that month’s amount. Few weeks back I get an email to say that I can only pay the bill via their fucking app from now on. They literally do not offer a way to pay off their card that doesn’t involve installing their app.

      It’s fucking mad. I genuinely can’t work it out. The app doesn’t have ads, I don’t let it push notifications, nothing like that. It’s on iOS, so fuck knows what it can see of my shit.

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    I’m not installng shit. App only features means I’m never supporting your company.

    In the same vein, video ads on a gas pump puts a store on my blacklist

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    These kind of campaigns/posts whatever are cute and admirable like “buy physical media” or wanting buttons in your car. But they show a fundamental lack of understanding how weighted everything is towards data now.

    Nothing can be permitted to stop the surveillience and dark patterns as we go deeper into monopoly capitialism. It’s the last frontier.

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    I used to make a living making apps and while there are legitimate use cases for running software applications on handheld computers there are a hundred times more apps than there are good use cases.

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      I have 2 apps on the Play Store. One is something I actually mostly just made for my wife that helps her figure out how well balanced her DnD dice are. It’s just called Dice Weight Calculator. But when you search for it, a ton of virtual dice roll apps come up. There are dozens, if not hundreds of them.

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    The worst are when someone takes something that already exists and slaps ads on it. It’s as difficult to find a good sudoku app on the play/app store that isn’t riddled with ads or wants you to make an account as it is to find a bad one in my Linux package manager. What value did you provide making yet another shitty sudoku app? None, yet you serve me ads? The gall!

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    My old internet provider had a function on their website that would do something to fix your Internet connection from their end. I lost internet one day and went to use it, but they replaced the mobile version of their website with a page telling me to download the app. Fine, I’ll download the app, which is clearly just a wrapper for the website. But for some reason you can’t access that function through the app.

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      One of the best days of the last two years was when att fiber rolled into my neighborhood and I got to cancel Xfinity. All telecoms are evil but there’s a special place in hell for Comcast.

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        its truly horrible.

        You need their app to do port forwarding now, and instead of not paying modem rental fees, there’s actually a fee for bringing your own modem now.