I am against the death penalty. I do believe some people deserve death. But I also don’t think anyone should have that authority over someone who isn’t a threat.
So yeah, I agree that I’m not in a position to say that someone deserves death.
By certain people DO deserve death. The problem is making the absolute determination of guilt. Courts and governments get that wrong all the time. For that reason I’m against the death penalty.
Why does anyone deserve to be murdered by the state or by anyone else no matter what they themselves have done? What does that achieve other than satisfying a bloodlust?
Protecting people from further harm. Punishment instead of rehabilitation. It’s fine if you wouldn’t, but understand plenty of people feel differently. Surely you’re onboard with some punishment or rehabilitation. There are those who would go further.
As a matter of practice, I oppose the death penalty. But I acknowledge there are people that deserve to die.
What about the other people in the prisons? Is solitary sufficient for you? What about the psychological harm that can do? Does a life sentence of torture work? What amount of resources should we direct to keeping a dangerous person locked up alive and not psychologically tortured? Are there other government functions you’d be fine losing at the cost of housing them? In the US we can manage that, but other countries maybe not.
Just not by the hands of the state. Until they can guarantee guilt of the perps, which they can’t do, then they shouldn’t be allowed that responsibility.
Punishments should befit crimes. A corrupt judge hard hands 1000 black teenagers to years in a privately owned juvi, taking kickbacks? Add those years up, and that’s the Judges sentence.
Corrupt cops, first and foremost, should be treated like criminals when they break the law, full stop. Beyond that, due to the breaking of public trust, should receive treble time based on no less than the average amount of time served for their age and gender. So they could never be sentenced to less than the average, then have to do 3x that amount, unpardonable, no early release.
When justice demands blood for blood, honestly, I don’t think we’ve advanced much from the middle ages. But I also think that the sentence should be carried out by either the wronged or the judge themself. It should be hard to take a life, and if you’re demanding it and justice allows, then you should carry that weight.
There was that guy who shot that dude in the airport on live TV, cuz duder kidnapped and raped his 12yr old son. That’s the real justice i hope to protect theu jury nullification one day. The state doesn’t define justice for us, we all already know what justice is. The state just talks a pretty game, maybe wines and dines ya, then raw dogs after saying they’re wearing a condom and forcing the abortion the following week. That’s the American Judicial System, more concerned with appearances than solutions, mores dispensed per diem.
If you don’t stand up for what you believe, then by definition, you don’t stand for anything.
Empathy for rapists and murderers is NOT the reason I’m against the death penalty.
They’re human beings too. Why are you in the position to say anyone deserves death?
I am against the death penalty. I do believe some people deserve death. But I also don’t think anyone should have that authority over someone who isn’t a threat.
So yeah, I agree that I’m not in a position to say that someone deserves death.
Oh so now the social contract is void???
I guess I didn’t realize “certain people deserve death” was part of the social contract.
In that case, yes. I would say it should be abandoned.
By certain people DO deserve death. The problem is making the absolute determination of guilt. Courts and governments get that wrong all the time. For that reason I’m against the death penalty.
Why does anyone deserve to be murdered by the state or by anyone else no matter what they themselves have done? What does that achieve other than satisfying a bloodlust?
Protecting people from further harm. Punishment instead of rehabilitation. It’s fine if you wouldn’t, but understand plenty of people feel differently. Surely you’re onboard with some punishment or rehabilitation. There are those who would go further.
As a matter of practice, I oppose the death penalty. But I acknowledge there are people that deserve to die.
That’s what prisons are for.
Yes, I understand bloodlust, I just think it’s wrong.
What about the other people in the prisons? Is solitary sufficient for you? What about the psychological harm that can do? Does a life sentence of torture work? What amount of resources should we direct to keeping a dangerous person locked up alive and not psychologically tortured? Are there other government functions you’d be fine losing at the cost of housing them? In the US we can manage that, but other countries maybe not.
Being tolerant of the intolerant leads to the rise of fascism.
There is a massive gulf between tolerating the intolerant and saying some people deserve death.
But some people do deserve to die, Squid.
Just not by the hands of the state. Until they can guarantee guilt of the perps, which they can’t do, then they shouldn’t be allowed that responsibility.
Punishments should befit crimes. A corrupt judge hard hands 1000 black teenagers to years in a privately owned juvi, taking kickbacks? Add those years up, and that’s the Judges sentence.
Corrupt cops, first and foremost, should be treated like criminals when they break the law, full stop. Beyond that, due to the breaking of public trust, should receive treble time based on no less than the average amount of time served for their age and gender. So they could never be sentenced to less than the average, then have to do 3x that amount, unpardonable, no early release.
When justice demands blood for blood, honestly, I don’t think we’ve advanced much from the middle ages. But I also think that the sentence should be carried out by either the wronged or the judge themself. It should be hard to take a life, and if you’re demanding it and justice allows, then you should carry that weight.
There was that guy who shot that dude in the airport on live TV, cuz duder kidnapped and raped his 12yr old son. That’s the real justice i hope to protect theu jury nullification one day. The state doesn’t define justice for us, we all already know what justice is. The state just talks a pretty game, maybe wines and dines ya, then raw dogs after saying they’re wearing a condom and forcing the abortion the following week. That’s the American Judicial System, more concerned with appearances than solutions, mores dispensed per diem.
If you don’t stand up for what you believe, then by definition, you don’t stand for anything.