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maybe-later-honey We need to stop Trump from being elected or he will destroy democracy.

We need to shoot all the Trump supporters.chad-stalin

wojak-nooo Nooooooooo, not like that!

You can, if you stop abstaining or voting third party out of protest. You can’t blame the electoral system for being ineffective if you don’t use it right.

Y’know the old saying about the best and second best times to plant a tree? Sweeping political change takes time. You need progressive candidates to prove themselves on local and state levels.

It’ll take 6 years to replace every governor and congressperson, and based on the landscape I see, at least 5-10 years to promote enough progressives to a position suitable to candidacy. 15-20 years of voting for capable progressives in every race from school board to governor will provide us with a rich crop of experienced candidates.

That does mean voting lesser evil until you can get proven progressives on the ticket. That’s just reality. If you don’t vote for a candidate that wins, you didn’t get even the most meager semblance of representation. Not getting what you want because the voters that disagree with you outnumber the ones that agree is the fundamental principle of democracy. Show up. Vote, for someone who might win.

Republicans planted their tree 50 years ago. Progressives’ best move in the next few elections is show up in droves to big tent blue wave, and then splinter when the Republican party is defunct.

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  • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I realized I came of a bit harsher than I meant to (the “you” in that last sentence was meant to be general, not particular). Anyway, I think that while you did say something demonic, just kicking yourself and then taking on a new persona is not a good way to improve. Self-flagellation is a pathological response to shame that often takes the place of being motivated by that shame to improve, when that latter scenario is the only extent to which shame is a good thing and not a pathological emotion.

    There are a bunch of people here who are ex-chuds (or no longer identify with chuddery anyway). I think the best thing to do – besides getting out there and meeting more people, which would hopefully make you less misanthropic – is to seek advice from them on how one reconditions themselves. Any advice I might give wouldn’t be that helpful because, due to circumstances of my birth, I’m coming from being a former dem rather than chud.

    And as the other fellow said, it would be better to not delete your account, though it’s up to you. The reason I immediately came down so hard on this take is that it’s not that uncommon among hexbears to just be fantasizing about a Day-of-the-Rope-but-Leftist and, as I said before, I strenuously object to indulging in that kind of thinking.

    • heggs_bayer [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      just kicking yourself and then taking on a new persona is not a good way to improve. Self-flagellation is a pathological response to shame that often takes the place of being motivated by that shame to improve, when that latter scenario is the only extent to which shame is a good thing and not a pathological emotion.

      This is true. It’s been my response to me not doing my best for a long time now and it hasn’t really helped me.

      And as the other fellow said, it would be better to not delete your account, though it’s up to you.

      H think I’m gonna keep this account. I can overreact to things pretty often, and logging out for awhile I’ve calmed down a lot. Besides, I think the pun for my username is too good to throw into the void.