• crashfrog
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    5 days ago

    You should be able to use reasonable force.

    Any amount of force that stops an attacker is reasonable, by definition. The only one who should have a legal obligation of care for the welfare of the lawbreaker is the one breaking the law.

    But if you just have someone who wants to be rude and yell in your face

    But it depends what they’re yelling. If they’re yelling “I’m five seconds from killing you!” then you do have a right to use whatever force is available to you to stop them, and that might very well mean their death; there actually aren’t any safe, harmless, perfectly non-lethal means of disabling an agitated, adrenaline-fueled human being.

    If that’s something that you don’t want to happen to you, then don’t go into public space and assault the people there. It’s actually pretty easy to avoid.

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      5 days ago

      Who was attacking who when two kids were sitting in their car?

      No answer required, FYI.

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          5 days ago

          It doesn’t matter. No place would justify murder.

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            4 days ago

            It’s not unreasonable that you might need to shoot someone who’s attacking you with a car

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              4 days ago

              So you agree that that place is irrelevant, it’s actions that matter.