There are a bunch of sicko neoliberals and insufferable redditors there, yes, but there are also some normal libs and a few comrades, and it seems like a good way to encourage lemmy generally to re-embrace leftism.
I’ve been using an alt to talk on there and it’s honestly not that bad. It’s a little bad, but not that bad. I think if we just try to patiently explain ourselves, we have a reasonable chance of reaching people and shifting the general political alignment.
Those of us who aren’t up to dealing with ghouls (I am frequently included in this group) can just stay at home here and that’s just fine.
Anyway, just an idea. I would appreciate feedback.
i’m an american, so I place the blame on America for prolonging and instigating the Russia-Ukraine conflict in the first place. It was the USA that instigated and guided the 2014 coup in Ukraine, then encouraged Ukraine to ignore the Minsk agreements, and now continues to encourage rejections of ceasefires or de-escalation. The entire war didn’t simply pop up out of nowhere. The Russian state didn’t simply wake up one day desiring land and then pick a target at random.
Rather, the entire conflict is the culmination of decades of American and western meddling.
I’ve also known Russian-speaking people in the Donbas, but they were more associated with the separatists, so I haven’t heard from them in a long time. They were probably shelled to death by Ukraine sometime between 2015 and 2022.
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These are not mutually exclusive. When the US does a color revolution, they amplify real social problems to get people into the streets. Then groups the US has financed (and armed), usually well before the actual tipping point, are used to steer the revolution in a way that’s favorable to the US, with the US diplomatic support hinging on that faction’s ascension to power. While the 2014 revolution started with euro-friendly liberals playing piano in the streets, it was quickly coopted by far-right groups.
Here’s an NBC article from 2014 where a journalist tries to make sense of why the US required Svoboda, Right Sector, and Fatherland get a majority of the newly formed Ukrainian government’s cabnet
There’s similar articles from the time trying to make sense of why neonazi paramilitary groups were incorporated into the military instead of purged.
Timothy Snyder (respectable Nazi historical revisionist) and Wikipedia disagree with them? Excellent fact checking.
Here’s a good article on the issue.
Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine?
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