There are a bunch of sicko neoliberals and insufferable redditors there, yes, but there are also some normal libs and a few comrades, and it seems like a good way to encourage lemmy generally to re-embrace leftism.
I’ve been using an alt to talk on there and it’s honestly not that bad. It’s a little bad, but not that bad. I think if we just try to patiently explain ourselves, we have a reasonable chance of reaching people and shifting the general political alignment.
Those of us who aren’t up to dealing with ghouls (I am frequently included in this group) can just stay at home here and that’s just fine.
Anyway, just an idea. I would appreciate feedback.
I can sort of understand being pro-Ukraine in this war given you probably don’t know the context from before 2022 and have been thoroughly propagandized by western media portraying these fascists as freedom fighters.
But calling this war a genocide? I genuinely don’t understand how anyone could come to that conclusion while we’re watching an actual genocide unfold in Palestine. Russia could have immediately and relentlessly terror bombed Ukrainian civilians and civilian infrastructure back into the stone age like the US and NATO typically do. But they didn’t. Clearly they intend for Ukrainians to still exist at the end of this. In order to call this a genocide, you’d need to say essentially every war ever fought was also a genocide.
There is no racial prejudice or settler designs in Russia’s motivation here. They’ve made themselves very clear since the fall of the Soviet Union that Ukraine joining NATO is their red line. But even after the US orchestrated the 2014 Maidan coup to install a fascist, rabidly anti-Russian government, even after Ukraine violated the Minsk agreements by continuing to ethnically cleanse Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine, Russia still attempted diplomacy until there were no other options left when NATO had Ukraine shut down all talk of peace.
You can’t goad someone into a war for literal decades and then start crying when, on their own terms rather than yours, they join the existing civil war on the side of the people you are trying to erase.