• Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    My comment was about CERN cutting ties with Russia, but not Russian nationailty

    And your comment was very obviously wrong.

    This idea that western Europe hates Russians is a propoganda

    You are saying this to the accompaniment of a massive NATO anti-Russian propaganda campaign coupled and stuff like banning Russian scientists from CERN, blockading Russia, having Russians who live in NATO countries go through special exams to not be kicked out, preventing peace negotiations that would have meant fewer deaths among both Russians and Ukrainians, etc.

    Looks like they do at least for this one:

    If one doesn’t care about invasions except for one particular case, it’s not the invasion that they have an issue with.
    It’s very obvious that CERN isn’t doing this because of taking a stand against invasions - CERN is completely fine with an ongoing highly-televised genocide, with killing millions of people in Iraq, Korea, Vietnam individually, killing more people in Afghanistan, Libya, etc. If the decision was made because of an invasion, they would have banned scientists from France, the US, Germany, Ukraine, Poland, all of the rest of NATO.

    If you still want to pretend that it’s because of an invasion, then tell me what scientists from NATO countries are still doing there.
    If CERN cared about invasions, it would have no members right now, by the way.

    EDIT: So yeah, you are yet to explain why nationality is a much better predictor for who gets to be banned from CERN than what state has invaded anybody.

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      It’s kind of logical to currently try to cut ties with a country that is causing destabilisation of whole Europe. Expecially if all that should be done to stop this is for Russia to just move out. Don’t see it happening any time soon since they have poured too many resources in already.

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        It’s kind of logical to currently try to cut ties with a country that is causing destabilisation of whole Europe

        Ah, so it’s only bad when it’s the designated in-group of white Europeans who are suffering from getting invaded, got it.
        Apparently, you and CERN both find it perfectly okay to kill millions of people in Iraq alone and perpetrate a settler-colonial genocide in Palestine.
        hitler-detector

        You are so racist that you can’t even register your racism.

        Expecially

        ‘Especially’.

        if all that should be done to stop this is for Russia to just move out

        The same applies to every single current CERN member. And yet, they are not banned.

        Again, so long as nationality is a better predictor of who gets banned from CERN than which state has invaded anybody, you can’t claim that an invasion is a reason for the purge.

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          Obviously closer issues will take priority over what happens further away. Same how East probably cares more about their situation than what happens in Ukraine.

          That should not be read as lack of empathy for others, Israel government for example currently should be treated the same way Russia is.

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            Obviously closer issues will take priority

            They are literally directly involved in all of the other issues mentioned. There is nothing closer than that.
            They have also been doing so for centuries at this point, since long before CERN was founded. This is very obviously not an issue of priorities when CERN had more time to address this than for how long modern Russia has existed. Also, I’m going to note that you are outright admitting that it’s not because Russia invaded anybody, but because NATO said so.
            Also, I’m going to note that you are just arguing for Russia (and the rest of the world) to roll over for your empire and for you to be able to attack Russia (and the rest of the world) with impunity.

            That should not be read as lack of empathy for others

            You are literally arguing that it’s okay to commit genocides and invasions so long as your empire’s leadership isn’t bothered.

            Israel government for example currently should be treated the same way Russia is

            Notably, it isn’t treated so, which throws your whole thesis out the window.

            Also, literally every NATO state is guilty of that genocide on account of supporting Pissrael.
            Furthermore, they have done plenty of their own atrocities without Pissrael, as well.

            Again, nationality is a perfect predictor for who is banned from CERN, and which state has invaded anybody has no correlation or causation with regards to the bans.
            You have no case.