Check this out. Compare the picture in this article to the stuff in the “sunken sub” picture. It matches perfectly, including the crates on the pier even. There was almost certainly a sub there at one point at least. Whether it sunk or not, who’s to say. It looks like the cranes are doing something though, right where the sub was in the earlier picture.
Governments are going to lie. All of them. Maybe don’t believe everything you see and double check to see if you can find more information. Sometimes it exists.
Shipyards normally aren’t on the ocean, for many reasons. Inland is more protected from storms. It’s harder to target inland facitilites. Shipyards often develop from previously specialized shipbuilding locations, which are often on rivers. Many shipyards are island, and it really isn’t strange to see a sub built inland if you pay attention to this. Rivers connect to the sea.
Edit: Got at least one downvote without an explanation. I assume it’s for bursting the bubble. If you don’t want to believe a sub was here at all, go ahead and explain the picture. I’m not claiming it sunk or anything, or supporting the article (it was just the one I found that included the before picture), but it seems pretty certain that it was in that exact spot sometime before this event, and the cranes are probably in that position for a reason. Consider for yourself why that could be. I’m sure you can explain it as well as I can.
First: Fuck CNN. That sub looks nothing like the shadow. They don’t NAME any US officials. The Center for a New American Security is a fucking think tank. They use Maxar because it’s free and they are a bunch of losers.
Second: Get a map and find Wuhan.
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Got at least one downvote without an explanation. I assume it’s for bursting the bubble.
Okay. Explain YOUR bubble bursting logic. You say a nuclear sub MUST have been in Wuhan and the two photos are in Wuhan. I don’t agree at all. The two piers don’t look alike for a start. And who is really the source of that CNN image of a sub? A US think tank: professional bullshitters basically.
Your gotcha moment is no good. You’re the one in the bubble. It’s such a speculation and scramble to justify the propaganda that China made a boo-boo.
The media have to provide good evidence for a story. They have cried wolf so many times when it comes to China. Their record is dogshit. Unless they have solid evidence, I wouldn’t believe one word of theirs.
Sure. I agree. I didn’t read the article. I posted it for the picture.
That sub looks nothing like the shadow.
Yeah, no shit. I said that. I don’t think the shadow is supposed to be the sub, like the post is implying. That would be dumb if that’s what it was saying. The water is far too murky to see anything though, so it’s dumb to make that assumption. The cranes are doing something though. They aren’t there for no reason. The cranes are in the exact spot where a sub was previously being outfitted. What the cranes are doing is unknown, but I’m sure they didn’t just move them into that position for no reason. Take from it what you will. I’m sure you have a brain that you can think with on your own.
Second: Get a map and find Wuhan.
I know where Wuhan is. I explained that in my comment. It’s very far inland up a river. Rivers connect to the sea and subs can move in water. There are many advantages to having a shipyard so far inland, as I listed above. The fact the shipyard exists I’m assuming you don’t question, right? If not, why couldn’t a sub be built there?
You say a nuclear sub MUST have been in Wuhan and the two photos are in Wuhan. I don’t agree at all. The two piers don’t look alike for a start.
I rotated the image and placed it next to the OP’s for you. Look at the position of the building on the shore, and the position and color of the crates on the dock. They’re the same place, or they are oddly identical.
Your gotcha moment is no good. You’re the one in the bubble. It’s such a speculation and scramble to justify the propaganda that China made a boo-boo.
I don’t care if China made a mistake. Literally everyone does. It shouldn’t be this much of an issue. The fact China can’t have made a mistake, in your mind, is the issue.
Edit: I went to the WSJ article to grab the original higher quality image, because it was shit in the OP to make it easier to compare.
And you are speculating with a theory. And then calling me unreasonable for NOT buying it.
The fact China can’t have made a mistake, in your mind, is the issue.
Where did I ever say that?
I am talking about media doing crap articles. It’s speculation with some bad photos that don’t provide evidence of it. And they all parrot the same shit. You understand that journalism should be better that this ?
No, I’m calling you unreasonable for assuming it couldn’t be possible. You even implied it would be crazy to think they build subs in Wuhan. That’s obviously wrong.
I assume you don’t deny there was a sub here now, like you did earlier. What do you think the cranes might be doing?
I honestly don’t care. I originally uovited the post, until I thought for a second about how dumb it would be if they were talking about the shadow, then I sought more information. The only reason I’m posting is people pretending that they were being outrageously stupid and must be lying. Clearly it’s not that stupid to think a sub could have sunk here. Whether it did or not I don’t know, but I can’t really think of what these cranes would be doing otherwise.
Check this out. Compare the picture in this article to the stuff in the “sunken sub” picture. It matches perfectly, including the crates on the pier even. There was almost certainly a sub there at one point at least. Whether it sunk or not, who’s to say. It looks like the cranes are doing something though, right where the sub was in the earlier picture.
Governments are going to lie. All of them. Maybe don’t believe everything you see and double check to see if you can find more information. Sometimes it exists.
Shipyards normally aren’t on the ocean, for many reasons. Inland is more protected from storms. It’s harder to target inland facitilites. Shipyards often develop from previously specialized shipbuilding locations, which are often on rivers. Many shipyards are island, and it really isn’t strange to see a sub built inland if you pay attention to this. Rivers connect to the sea.
Edit: Got at least one downvote without an explanation. I assume it’s for bursting the bubble. If you don’t want to believe a sub was here at all, go ahead and explain the picture. I’m not claiming it sunk or anything, or supporting the article (it was just the one I found that included the before picture), but it seems pretty certain that it was in that exact spot sometime before this event, and the cranes are probably in that position for a reason. Consider for yourself why that could be. I’m sure you can explain it as well as I can.
First: Fuck CNN. That sub looks nothing like the shadow. They don’t NAME any US officials. The Center for a New American Security is a fucking think tank. They use Maxar because it’s free and they are a bunch of losers.
Second: Get a map and find Wuhan.
Edit:
Okay. Explain YOUR bubble bursting logic. You say a nuclear sub MUST have been in Wuhan and the two photos are in Wuhan. I don’t agree at all. The two piers don’t look alike for a start. And who is really the source of that CNN image of a sub? A US think tank: professional bullshitters basically.
Your gotcha moment is no good. You’re the one in the bubble. It’s such a speculation and scramble to justify the propaganda that China made a boo-boo.
The media have to provide good evidence for a story. They have cried wolf so many times when it comes to China. Their record is dogshit. Unless they have solid evidence, I wouldn’t believe one word of theirs.
Sure. I agree. I didn’t read the article. I posted it for the picture.
Yeah, no shit. I said that. I don’t think the shadow is supposed to be the sub, like the post is implying. That would be dumb if that’s what it was saying. The water is far too murky to see anything though, so it’s dumb to make that assumption. The cranes are doing something though. They aren’t there for no reason. The cranes are in the exact spot where a sub was previously being outfitted. What the cranes are doing is unknown, but I’m sure they didn’t just move them into that position for no reason. Take from it what you will. I’m sure you have a brain that you can think with on your own.
I know where Wuhan is. I explained that in my comment. It’s very far inland up a river. Rivers connect to the sea and subs can move in water. There are many advantages to having a shipyard so far inland, as I listed above. The fact the shipyard exists I’m assuming you don’t question, right? If not, why couldn’t a sub be built there?
I rotated the image and placed it next to the OP’s for you. Look at the position of the building on the shore, and the position and color of the crates on the dock. They’re the same place, or they are oddly identical.
I don’t care if China made a mistake. Literally everyone does. It shouldn’t be this much of an issue. The fact China can’t have made a mistake, in your mind, is the issue.
Edit: I went to the WSJ article to grab the original higher quality image, because it was shit in the OP to make it easier to compare.
And you are speculating with a theory. And then calling me unreasonable for NOT buying it.
Where did I ever say that?
I am talking about media doing crap articles. It’s speculation with some bad photos that don’t provide evidence of it. And they all parrot the same shit. You understand that journalism should be better that this ?
I’m done.
No, I’m calling you unreasonable for assuming it couldn’t be possible. You even implied it would be crazy to think they build subs in Wuhan. That’s obviously wrong.
I assume you don’t deny there was a sub here now, like you did earlier. What do you think the cranes might be doing?
I honestly don’t care. I originally uovited the post, until I thought for a second about how dumb it would be if they were talking about the shadow, then I sought more information. The only reason I’m posting is people pretending that they were being outrageously stupid and must be lying. Clearly it’s not that stupid to think a sub could have sunk here. Whether it did or not I don’t know, but I can’t really think of what these cranes would be doing otherwise.