• Alatarius@lemmynsfw.com
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    On the other end of this debacle, why have none of the medical professionals filed a lawsuit against the GOP lawyers for making medical decisions for people without having a medical license. Am I correct in assuming you can’t practice medicine or make medical judgements without a license, or am I overlooking something?

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      I think the overturning of chevron deference actually might make it so that politicians are just as qualified to make medical decisions for their constituents as doctors. It’s not a good era for the Supreme Court

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    Repubs when asked to wear a 1-ply cloth for public safety vs. Repubs when a none of their business is happening between a child, their parents, and the child’s medical team.

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      Republican officials from 21 states have accused the medical group of violating state consumer protection laws by supporting gender-affirming care for trans youth. More ominously, they’re demanding that the AAP turn over extensive records about how it developed its policy.

      That’s the attack, and the care is “puberty blockers and hormone treatment”.

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          Oh boy, I can tell you’re not here for a good faith argument. Puberty blockers are explicitly TO delay puberty until they can be sure. Nothing wrong with them

          “But why can they consent to-”

          Nah ah, already stated the difference

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            Yup, puberty blockers let trans youth prevent the onset of gender characteristics during puberty so that they can make an informed decision on what they want when they are an adult. It’s basically all upsides and, if the youth decides to go ahead with the puberty matching their birth sex it’s trivial to do so… but it keeps that door open so time doesn’t force a decision on them.

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            “I dont agree with you your argument must be bad faith” is one hell of a bad faith argument.

            So you consider the side effects an acceptable risk?

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              And you think you know more than the kid’s doctor to predecide for millions of kids in your country?

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              It’s not our risk to accept. It’s between the person and their doctor.

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              So you consider the side effects an acceptable risk?

              Doctors that are specialized in that field should know that better than you or me, no?

              But I’ll humor you anyway. You know what also has side effects? Going through puberty. And those side effects are permanent. If your puberty changes you in ways that don’t align with your gender identity, those side effects include higher risk of dying by suicide, as one example. So yeah, that seems like a risk that I, with my unqualified opinion, would be willing to take in order to make sure my child and their doctors have enough time to figure out who they are and what they need.

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                Im so glad you brought up that example because a review of the literature commissioned by the nhs found that the results where of low certainty and had no reduction in mental health gender dysphoria or psychosocial impact.

                Im going to assume a review of all the peer reviewed literature should know better than docters with a financial incentive to continue providing said services.

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          And you sound like Tucker Carlson to me.

          If you’re not a doctor or a parent of trans youth how about you mind your own business and stop being so weird.

          Or do you not believe in small government?

          Just asking questions here.

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          Yeah, also why can children consent to any medical treatment? Not dying of treatable conditions is altering their body, and that’s literally bad. I’m so smart and compassionate, I’m basically literally a doctor.

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            They cant their parents can tho. Puberty blockers are not a life saving treatment they are physical only and thus just like plastic surgery shouldnt be given to kids. And no u cant argue they will kill themselves if they dont get treated there is plenty of peer reviewed papers proving that to be false.

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              Hormones absolutely affect more than cosmetic things.

              I started hormone replacement therapy 2 months ago. I spent four decades before that wanting to commit suicide.

              I still mostly look like a man and my mental health has vastly improved. I’m less defensive less reactionary more open. I get a long better with everybody in my life.

              Including myself.

              Being congruent with your gender both chemically and socially helps people feel more joy happiness and self-acceptance.

              That is not cosmetic and you have no idea what you’re talking about.

              Like I said in an earlier comment you’re not a doctor. And you cite doctors that aren’t specialists in the field who have an agenda.

              Seriously mind your own business and let parents and doctors that actually understand this stuff take care of kids that need life-saving treatment.

              And while you’re at it maybe look up the study that was just done about how suicide rates in trans youth are 70% higher states deny health care to trans youth.

              In other words educate yourself before having an opinion about something you know nothing about.

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                People like this are so ridiculous. They really don’t understand the concept of not being comfortable in your own body to the point that you don’t even want to live because your family and society in general disapprove of you being who you really are.

                Which is ridiculous because I’m cis and it’s not hard for me at all to understand that being given gender-affirming care would be pretty fucking helpful for kids who feel that way.

                Or rather either they don’t understand it or they don’t care because it’s “wrong.”

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                  It’s transphobic garbage.

                  Hormones are cosmetic, was their comment. This person does not believe in medicine, biology, or science. Only their transphobic garbage.

                  When are mods going to start banning people for this stuff? It seriously kills kids. It’s like COVID misinformation.

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                Now thats a bad faith argument. I usually get banned for calling people an idiot or is that only cos my opinions are controversial?

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                  I’m not arguing with you. Your opinion is just wrong and irrelevant. Not understanding a medical treatment and wanting it banned because it makes you uncomfortable makes you a small minded, bad person. I hope you take the time to either reevaluate your life or go away.

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                  No, a bad faith argument would be using one study and a handful of doctors that aren’t specialists in the area that agrees with you versus the hundreds of studies and thousands of doctors that specialize in the area that don’t.