• EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        9 hours ago

        Aircraft engineers and mechanics used to be considered unskilled labor until the 1950s. They were only “reclassified” during the Cold War because there weren’t enough people going into the profession to keep up with the demand.

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          6 hours ago

          You can rank anything, and piling boxes such that they don’t fall over and kill someone is more dangerous with more expertise than cooking McDonald’s burgers for 2min then doing it again.

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          10 hours ago

          One can imagine just walking in blind and getting an order to do X of something right now without any guidance.

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            9 hours ago

            Drag doesn’t know how to make a big mac. Drag doesn’t know the procedure for packing an Amazon box. Drag doesn’t know how to turn on the stove or where to find the tape. And drag sure couldn’t do it as fast as the pros, even with instruction.

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          OK, so what skill is needed to put Box A into Box B where Box B is three times the size of Box A?

          What does the training involve?

          Are there really people out there who can’t do that (excluding reasons like physical disability)?

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            5 hours ago

            Drag doesn’t know what the legal and organisational standards are on the amount of packing material to cushion fragile items, or what kinds of tape need to be used.

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      My tech who knows how to take and read basic vital signs, flip granny like a pancake and wash her genitals without giving her an infection, walk her to the bathroom without yanking her IV out or cracking her head on the floor, the basic legal aspects of a psych admission, and the basics of psychosis, mania, etc well enough to briefly counsel a patient on their symptoms and which ones are important enough to notify me about-

      -makes 16 an hour. Not that the warehouse worker doesn’t deserve a living wage, but to call that skilled labor, and especially more skilled labor than food service is frankly delusional.

      Even my partner who does work in food service knows more than the warehouse worker because he knows the biology and chemistry of food safety and sanitation, prevention of allergen cross contamination, knife / sharps safety, and fire and fire extinguisher classifications and how to put out a grease fire-

      -and that was before he got a job in the hospital kitchen where he also learned about specialized medical diets including food and drink thicknesses and consistencies, sodium and carb restrictions, and even safety trays for violent and suicidal patients.

      What’s in that warehouse training? How to lift with your knees instead of your back and rotating stock? Storage temperatures? Because food service does all that too. The only thing they might know more about than a food service worker is how to use a forklift, and that’s only if their employer thought they were intelligent and level headed enough to bother training on one, and this post does not evidence those qualities.