GEICO, the second-largest vehicle insurance underwriter in the US, has decided it will no longer cover Tesla Cybertrucks. The company is terminating current Cybertruck policies and says the truck “doesn’t meet our underwriting guidelines.”

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      25 days ago

      A vehicle shutting down in the middle of the freeway can easily cause multiple accidents.

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          25 days ago

          I don’t know how you got to the conclusion that OP was saying “all” and not being hypothetical.

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              25 days ago

              According to this comment thread and the article, these cars have abruptly stopped functioning with no warning. Do you not think it is only a matter of time before that occurs in a dangerous situation? Insurance companies base their decisions on statistics and probabilities. It is very much related to “hypotheticals”.

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                  25 days ago

                  I literally just explained this in the comment you replied to.

                  You did not.

                  Once again…

                  This was the first time you made this point, so not sure why you say “again”.

                  In other words, this ain’t it.

                  They likely won’t disclose the real reasons. However I’m yet to be convinced that reliability wasn’t taken into account.

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              It’s rare for normal cars to shut down with no warning.

              It’s pretty common for cybertrucks to do it.

              Eventually that’s gonna happen on a highway. Insurance works by assuming the worst thing that can happen will happen and charging you appropriately. It’s far from irrelevant in this case.

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      25 days ago

      The go pedal and the steering wheel are equivalent to a keyboard/mouse and are not physically connected to anything. If the car shuts off, the wheels go where they feel like with absolutely no driver control.

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        25 days ago

        Never thought of they how would you brake if the car shutoff.

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            23 days ago

            How well does that work after losing vacuum assist?

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              23 days ago

              Definitely not as well but you can still use them. Cars didn’t even have vacuum assisted brakes up into the 1960s and 1970s

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                22 days ago

                Yes, and they were designed with that in mind- brake pedals with more leverage for one…

                My mom had a Ford ranger for a while that had lost its brake boost, it took a lot of force to get it to slow down, and that wasn’t even a heavy vehicle, this was back when a pickup was a two-seater…

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          Did you really just draw an equivalency between Tesla’s software practices and the aerospace industry? Even Daddy Musk isn’t stupid enough to pretend those are the same.

          Also your assertion that there is “no such thing as off” blatantly displays your horrible lack of understanding that distributed computing still relies on electricity.

          Edit: since Tesla is apparently the same thing as Airbus, can you point me to the source code published by the relevant regulatory body that controls the Cybertruck’s steering mechanism?

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          24 days ago

          Have you looked at the cybertruck’s manufacturing practices? Airplanes have redundancies for their redunancies and that’s why people use them. The cybertruck was built with the “go fast and break things” model, does not have redundancies, and actually removed some standard safety features found in every other car. Like tempered glass.

          Comparing a cyber truck to an airplane is like comparing a pinewood derby car to a military personnel carrier. One was made by a child. The other is engineered to keep as many soldiers alive as possible.