After all the shenanigans two weeks ago – everyone discovering nasty little problems in release candidate 2 – the last week was suspiciously quiet, and therefore I can finally say: Python 3.13.0 is now available This is the stable release of Python 3.13.0 Python 3.13.0 is the newest major release of the Python programming language, and it contains many new features and optimizations compared to Python 3.12. (Compared to the last release candidate, 3.13.0rc3, 3.13.0 contains two small bug fixe...
    • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
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      3 days ago

      Yeah it’s definitely a vast improvement on previous attempts (Poetry et al).

      I dunno if it can be called solved until it’s officially sanctioned and installed by default though, and I don’t see that happening for a very long time.

        • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
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          2 days ago

          It actually works. I tried poetry once and it failed to resolve some simple dependency specification.

          Ok you can say it was a fluke bug but it didn’t inspire confidence.

          uv is also freakishly fast. My venv setup times went from 57 seconds to 7 seconds. I seriously doubt Poetry can do that because it’s written in Python.

        • Buttons@programming.devEnglish
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          2 days ago

          I abandoned poetry after it was unable to install a specific version of pytorch I was using.

          In pip I would do something like pip3 install torch torchvision torchaudio --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu118, but IIRC poetry didn’t support the --index-url option.