• HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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    3 hours ago

    But how do you break up Google? Their ad business is the lynchpin to their monopolies and breaking off chunks without being able to self fund is just asking for harm to the market.

    Breaking off Chrome while banning paid default search status puts the browser company with the same problem as Firefox.

    No one can run a search company without ads.

    Cutting along business lines is just going to create smaller monopolies or dead product lines.

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      14 minutes ago

      Not our problem. Adtech is cyber warfare. They can find new business models not designed to exploit nor control us.

      We need to stop depending on Big Tech giants like AWS, Google, Microsoft. I personally hope it breeds new innovation.

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      2 hours ago

      There’s plenty of good, free and non-invasive search engines. Give Qwant a try!

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        17 minutes ago

        I seriously can’t deal with google search anymore, I swear I can’t find anything.
        It’s like it replaces my search terms with something more common (sometimes even completely unrelated) and runs the search with that. It’s fucking ridiculous. Keyword search doesn’t work at all anymore, and writing fucking sentences like it suggests you to leads to completely shit results. I just don’t get it.
        I noticed a change like this some 10 or so years ago. It used to be pretty simple, just an index search. And it was pretty reliable, you just had to get the hang of it. But I noticed they changed something because that didn’t work so well anymore, so I switched up my search style to be more like you would expect people new to computers to have. Kinda annoying, and not as effective, especially for edge cases (some obscure searches) but for those it seemed to somewhat fall back to the old method.
        But now, nothing works anymore. Honestly it fucking infuriates me sometimes, I can’t find anything. If you want something specific, fucking forget it. More than three specifications and it shows you just 5 results??? What the fuck is with that? And not good results mind you. any less specific and it shows you generic, not applicable answers. I tried everything, it’s useless beyond the most general questions.

        So yeah, I kinda went off on a rant there, but the point of the comment is, is qwant (or any other alternative) similar to old google and can actually search by keywords?

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      2 hours ago

      Then the search company buy the ad service from the ad company, as all other search engines can then do as well. Isn’t that the point of breaking up a big company?

      I’m a layman, but how is that harming the market?

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        1 hour ago

        Because the ad monopoly is subsidizing the other businesses.

        Breaking up Google to smaller companies but leaving the ad market as is the same just creates more Mozillas, companies technically independent but still relying on the same revenue stream.

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          57 minutes ago

          If there is money to be made those companies would make deals for data/ad-space, it’s just that they will do it in competition with other ad services and search services for example. That’s how a healthy market works, no? (Aside from the problematic data brokerage which is another issue)

          And if they can’t survive that, then the business should probably not exist.

          In that sense you could argue the market is “hurt” but I think consumers will benefit in the long run when competition can thrive, and monopolies do not exist.