Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,” according to six people familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive and confidential information. Trump has said publicly that the two have spoken at least twice in October, with one call as recently as Oct. 19.

“He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who was on a call this month with Trump and Netanyahu, referring to the Israeli operation that killed Hezbollah leaders with explosive batteries inside pagers. “He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”

Graham added: “He told them, do what you have to do to defend yourself, but we’re openly talking about a new Mideast. Trump understands that very much there has to be change with the corrupt Palestinian state.”

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    Don’t forget to vote third party to teach the Democrats a lesson about genocide….

    Seriously the American Gaza protests are 100% about disenfranchising Democrats. They absolutely never go after Republicans. Ever. Ask them about this and they get suuuuper defensive and angry.

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      Oh yeah definitely. People couldn’t possibly be protesting to try to stop a Holocaust. It’s all about the Democrats.

      You are the same people who were saying Biden should stay in the race and were dumbfounded when it looked like Democrats might actually have a chance once he stepped down.

      If you people used half your energy to pushed Harris to take a principled stance on Palestine and stand up to Israel it would lead to a landslide victory.

      Instead you want to shit on the left and let yourselves be pulled further to the right.

      Meanwhile you’ve got shitstains like Elon Musk doing everything he can to ensure a Republican victory.

      You only have yourselves to blame if she loses. Either way you’re going to go back to your lives and go to brunch, not taking any form of direct political action until the next election whatever happens.

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      Of course not. These protests are about saying “we want to vote for you, but we need to see you do something about this”

      Republicans being bloodthirsty fascists is a given, Democrats aren’t supposed to be. Kamala’s campaign should be the one messaging how awful Trump would be for Gaza, not random forum posters, but they don’t because she doesn’t have any functionally different policy on that than Trump.

      I don’t get why this is hard to grasp.

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        u/xmonk couldn’t have said it better. I would say you have to be the stupidest person on earth to vote 3rd party but I know that Magidiots exist.

        You do nothing but enable genocide by voting 3rd party. A Democrat loss in November GUARANTEES the genocide continues. The Republican Party is the party of Israel and they would bend over backwards to give them whatever is necessary to bring back Jesus Christ

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          A billion times this, but also I’m yelling and the veins are bulging in my neck. It’s so far beyond beyond idiocy, so much so that I’m now convinced that left/right is a circle and these gnat-brained children are basically stealth Maga.

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          Not to mention I haven’t seen one of these 3rd party voters mention Ukraine. The Dems are the only thing standing between Russia and a lot more Ukrainians dying. If nothing else, vote Dem for them.

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            That and they’re also not talking about what will happen to all minorities and women in the USA itself.

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          Once again, I am not advocating for 3rd parties. You guys are shadowboxing.

          I’m saying don’t blame the people because the Democrats shat the bed in this election. Neither party is willing to reign in Israel, the Biden administration has done absolutely nothing to stop the genocide.

          I’m not going to fault someone one way or the other about their decision to vote for Kamala.

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            Don’t worry I’ll do it for both of us.

            I say this just for the others that will read it but if a normal Republican was running I’d vote red because I do not agree with a lot of kamalas policies and she seems unable to answer basic questions on how she will accomplish anything.

            The issue lies with Trump. He was a terrible president and he is a pathological liar. I wish to God our candidates were anti murder but that’s not the case. We have to choose the lesser of 2 evils and make our complaints known in the next primary and throughout the presidency, whomever wins.

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            We can be anti Israel and anti trump at the same time bud. If you enjoy trumps America just say so. Don’t need to hide behind your facade of moral high ground.

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              Perhaps you can. Many others seem to find it difficult to wrap their head around the idea that, for the nonce, there’s no way to be anti-fascist while aiding in the election of Trump, no matter how many rhetorical contortions are made.

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        If you voted uncommitted in the primaries - rock on brother, you were part of sending a strong message to the DNC.

        If you plan on voting anyone but Harris in the general election - get fucked, you’re accelerating the genocide.

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          Don’t forget that showing up BETWEEN ELECTIONS to shape your local political scene is how real, long-term change in politics is accomplished.

          I wonder how many of these people who claim they can’t vote for Harris because they “need to teach the Democratic Party a lesson” have participated in primary elections or attended local party meetings to affect change.

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        You know what virtually every 3rd party advocate like you doesn’t say? Anything about how the 3rd party candidate would be good for Americans’ day to day life.

        What will your 3rd party candidate (lets ignore the fact that not a sigle post advocates an actual candidate)do for me that directly impacts me and my family’s life? Will they fund social security? Are they advocates for ranked choice voting? Are they pro choice? Are they pro universal Healthcare? How about corporate reform? Dark money in politics? Net nutrality? Fucking crickets on all these topics from yall.

        If you would get off the ONLY topic you all spew, maybe, just maybe, you could change some minds. The 3rd party push is so disingenuous, it’s just as bad as Republicans who only vote for Trump due to him helping overturn Roe v Wade.

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        Well then you’re about to get what you want. You’ll teach her a lesson. Congratulations. Hope it’s fucking worth it.

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          Lmao they’re not going to learn anything. Their takeaway will be “we didn’t try hard enough to capture moderate Republicans” and shift further to the right.

          Instead of getting mad at people for not voting for a candidate that doesn’t align with their interests, maybe you should be mad at the Democratic party for running a dogshit campaign. Even from a pragmatic point of view, its a lot easier to put pressure on the party than to yell at hundreds of thousands of people with varying reasons for not wanting to vote for her.

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            Oh good. At least you’re aware you’re killing Palestinians, taking away women’s bodily autonomy, persecuting immigrants, and pushing the Democrat party further right. I guess I appreciate your honesty.

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              Crazy how you can look at the Democratic administration taking zero action on any of those things and somehow make it my fault, but go off king.

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            They’re trying to get people who will vote to vote for her. The aren’t going to count on people who are saying they won’t show up.

            They’ve been doing it since Clinton won as a third-way Democrat in the 90s.

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            I’m deeply pissed off at democrats for a lot of shit… I’m still not willing to murder women or Palestinians to express it.

            If Trump is elected, women will die easily preventable deaths and he has promised to accelerate the genocide.

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                I won’t, although they should feel deep shame for contributing to a genocide.

                I think Harris was a weak pick and our lack of a primary was a serious mistake. I blame the DNC for hand picking the next candidate instead of allowing the democratic process to proceed.

                But, at this point, Harris is our candidate… so I hope to fuck she wins.

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                  Do more. Get her and others in office, and then let them have it with your demands that we not only stop helping the war, but be active in forcing it to stop. Do that regardless of who is in office, but even in the “both sides” mentality which is more likely to sway to a huge public outcry, left or right?

                  This didn’t begin with this election or Harris’ campaign, although it sure feels like coverage ramped up around that time. Coincidence?

                  A side note on the primary - I do agree that Biden shouldn’t have started a second run and we should have had a proper primary. We didn’t, and the change to Harris was so late in the game doing a primary (if that’s even legally possible) would have done more damage and missed the effect it had on Trump. We can’t fix the past, only try and navigate the present, otherwise we’d probably be best to go back to 1947 and prevent this whole mistake of using superstition and western colonialism dictate what borders are where.