cross-posted from: https://lemmy.daqfx.com/post/24701

I’m hosting my own Lemmy instance and trying to figure out how to optimize PSQL to reduce disk IO at the expense of memory.

I accept increased risk this introduces, but need to figure out parameters that will allow a server with a ton of RAM and reliable power to operate without constantly sitting with 20% iowait.

Current settings:

# DB Version: 15
# OS Type: linux
# DB Type: web
# Total Memory (RAM): 32 GB
# CPUs num: 8
# Data Storage: hdd

max_connections = 200
shared_buffers = 8GB
effective_cache_size = 24GB
maintenance_work_mem = 2GB
checkpoint_completion_target = 0.9
wal_buffers = 16MB
default_statistics_target = 100
random_page_cost = 4
effective_io_concurrency = 2
work_mem = 10485kB
min_wal_size = 1GB
max_wal_size = 4GB
max_worker_processes = 8
max_parallel_workers_per_gather = 4
max_parallel_workers = 8
max_parallel_maintenance_workers = 4
fsync = off
synchronous_commit = off
wal_writer_delay = 800
wal_buffers = 64MB

Most load comes from LCS script seeding content and not actual users.

Solution: My issue turned out to be really banal - Lemmy’s PostgreSQL container was pointing at default location for config file (/var/lib/postgresql/data/postgresql.conf) and not at the location where I actually mounted custom config file for the server (/etc/postgresql.conf). Everything is working as expected after I updated docker-compose.yaml file to point PostgreSQL to correct config file. Thanks @bahmanm@lemmy.ml for pointing me in the right direction!

  • bahmanm@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    A few things off the top of my head in order of importance:

    • How frequently do you VACCUM the database? Have you tried VACCUMing a few of times over a 5 min span & see if there are changes to the disk I/O aftewards?

    • I’ve got no idea how Lemmy works but “seeding content”, to my mind, possibly means a lot of INSERT/UPDATEs. Is that correct? If yes, there’s a chance you may be thrashing your indices & invalidating them too frequently which triggers a lot of rebuilding which could swallow a very large portion of the shared_buffers. To rule that out, you can simply bump shared_buffers (eg 16GB) & effective_cache_size and see if it makes any difference.

    • Please include a bit more information about PG activity, namely from pg_stat_activity, pg_stat_bgwriter & pg_stat_wal.

    • You’ve got quite a high value for max_connections - I don’t believe that’ s the culprit here.

    And finally, if possible, I’d highly recommend that you take a few minutes & install Prometheus, Prometheus node exporter, Proemetheus PG exporter and Grafana to monitor the state of your deployment. It’s way easier to find correlations between data points using the said toolset.

    • towerful@programming.dev
      1·
      1 year ago

      Your Prom PG Exporter is a 404 (I think there is a trailing t in the URL).

      Do you have any recommendations for dashboard for grafana/Pg?
      As well as statistics that are important?
      This is something I’m going to be putting into my deployment, and it’s really easy to get overwhelmed with data!

      • bahmanm@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Oh, updated the link 🤦‍♂️

        The stock Grafana dashboard for PG is a good starting point. At least, that’s how I started. You really should add new metrics to your dashboard if you really need them as you said.

        Don’t forget to install node-exporter too. It gives some important bits of info about the PG host. Again the stock dashboard is a decent one to start w/.

    • daq@lemmy.daqfx.comOP
      1·
      1 year ago
      • I never manually VACUUMed the DB. I just assumed it does it automatically at regular intervals. VACUUMing manually didn’t seem to make any difference and gave me the following error after a few minutes of running on various tables: ERROR: could not resize shared memory segment "/PostgreSQL.1987530338" to 67128672 bytes: No space left on device I’m not 100% sure where it out of space, but I’m assuming one of the configured buffers since there was still plenty of space left on disk and RAM. I didn’t notice any difference in iowait while it was running or after.
      • Yes, seeding is mostly inserts, but I see a roughly equal number of selects. I did increase shared_buffers and effective_cache_size with no effect.
      • https://ctxt.io/2/AABQciw3FA https://ctxt.io/2/AABQTprTEg https://ctxt.io/2/AABQKqOaEg

      I did install Prometheus with PG exporter and Grafana. I’m not a DB expert and certainly not a PostgreSQL expert, but I don’t see anything that would indicate an issue. Anything specific you can suggest that I should focus on?

      Thanks for all the suggestions!

      • bahmanm@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        could not resize shared memory

        That means too many chunky parallel maintenance workers are using the memory at the same time (max_parallel_maintenance_workers and maintenance_work_mem.)

        VACCUMing is a very important part of how PG works; can you try setting max_parallel_maintenance_workers to 1 or even 0 (disable parallel altogether) and retry the experiment?

        I did increase shared_buffers and effective_cache_size with no effect.

        That probably rules out the theory of thrashed indices.

        https://ctxt.io/2/AABQciw3FA https://ctxt.io/2/AABQTprTEg https://ctxt.io/2/AABQKqOaEg

        Since those stats are cumulative, it’s hard to tell anything w/o knowing when was the SELECT run. It’d be very helpful if you could run those queries a few times w/ 1min interval and share the output.

        I did install Prometheus with PG exporter and Grafana…Anything specific you can suggest that I should focus on?

        I’d start w/ the 3 tables I mentioned in the previous point and try to find anomalies esp under different workloads. The rest, I’m afraid, is going to be a bit of an investigation and detective work.

        If you like, you can give me access to the Grafana dashboard so I can take a look and we can take it from there. It’s going to be totally free of charge of course as I am quite interested in your problem: it’s both a challenge for me and helping a fellow Lemmy user. The only thing I ask is that we report back the results and solution here so that others can benefit from the work.

        • daq@lemmy.daqfx.comOP
          1·
          1 year ago

          If you like, you can give me access to the Grafana dashboard so I can take a look and we can take it from there. It’s going to be totally free of charge of course as I am quite interested in your problem: it’s both a challenge for me and helping a fellow Lemmy user. The only thing I ask is that we report back the results and solution here so that others can benefit from the work.

          No problem. PM me an IP (v4 or v6) or an email address (disposable is fine) and I’ll reply with a link to access Grafana with above in allow list.