Acknowleding that the us is leading multiple genocides (thought they might be a xinjiang/ukraine genocide truther) as some kind of gotcha is just… i don’t really have a word for that.
I can confidentaly define four ongoing US lead genocides right now
of Palestinians
of Yemenis
of Trans people
That the US is committing genocide against trans people right now is controversial due to misunderstandings of the term but the actions of the US government are a textbook example if you go by the text of the Genocide convention.
And
of Indigenous Americans
The thing with defining genocide is, for it to matter, you have to recognize it, define it, and stop it before it becomes Rwanda or the Shoah. We often think of genocide only in terms of genocides that have been successfully completed.
It’s also important to recognize, as with Trans people in the US, that a genocide does not require active mass killing to be genocide. The Genocide Convention recognizes processes other than murder as genocide, focusing on genocide as an attempt to exterminate a group based on essential characteristics whether that is done by direct killing or by suppression and dismantling of the group. This includes inflicting severe mental harm as well as sterilization and kidnapping children, and genocide scholars today recognize methods and processes beyond was is defined in the original Genocide Convention.
That’s part of what makes double-holocaust myths so pernicious and dangerous - it blurs the lines and obscures the actual methods and purpose of the crime of genocide.
I think we’re seeing right now the purpose of invented genocide narratives in Ukraine, Tibet, and Xinjiang. NATOstan created these fake genocides in order to create moral equivalency between its crimes and “in bad country” enemy nations. People of NATO can tell themselves “everyone does it” and believe that genocide is just 21st century realpolitik if they believe that their absolutely depraved fictive enemies are doing the same thing. “Every accusation is a confession”.
That’s at least a fair and well reasoned argument as to where you might get such a number, and by no means was I intending to downplay the evil of the U.S.
I’ll be honest that I thought the indigenous American genocide has already been successfully completed. Is it still ongoing?
I also only have a vague idea about Yemen. Could you provide some resources on where to get some decent information on it?
There are ~2 million indigenous Americans scattered around the country from many different tribes, nations, and ethnic groups. The us is still using a lot of it’s old colonial systems, for example the “blood quantum” system, intended to exterminate indigenous Americans as a distinct culture. Indigenous Americans are also trapped in conditions of extreme poverty due to both historic and contemporary policies that are de facto social murder. It’s a big, awful, complex issue due to how many different groups of indigenous people their are, the us’s patchwork of quasi-independent states, and all sorts of other stuff but if you stand back far enough it’s genocide.
For Yemen, you’d want to look at the US/Saudi war against the Houthis that started back during Obama/Biden. The Saudis couldn’t win a fist fight with a drunk card board box let alone fight Ansarallah on the ground. So they went with extermination by destroying food, water, and medical infrastructure to spread disease and starvation. It’s the quickest way to murder huge numbers of people, especially children.
Acknowleding that the us is leading multiple genocides (thought they might be a xinjiang/ukraine genocide truther) as some kind of gotcha is just… i don’t really have a word for that.
I can confidentaly define four ongoing US lead genocides right now
of Palestinians
of Yemenis
of Trans people
That the US is committing genocide against trans people right now is controversial due to misunderstandings of the term but the actions of the US government are a textbook example if you go by the text of the Genocide convention.
And
The thing with defining genocide is, for it to matter, you have to recognize it, define it, and stop it before it becomes Rwanda or the Shoah. We often think of genocide only in terms of genocides that have been successfully completed.
It’s also important to recognize, as with Trans people in the US, that a genocide does not require active mass killing to be genocide. The Genocide Convention recognizes processes other than murder as genocide, focusing on genocide as an attempt to exterminate a group based on essential characteristics whether that is done by direct killing or by suppression and dismantling of the group. This includes inflicting severe mental harm as well as sterilization and kidnapping children, and genocide scholars today recognize methods and processes beyond was is defined in the original Genocide Convention.
That’s part of what makes double-holocaust myths so pernicious and dangerous - it blurs the lines and obscures the actual methods and purpose of the crime of genocide.
I think we’re seeing right now the purpose of invented genocide narratives in Ukraine, Tibet, and Xinjiang. NATOstan created these fake genocides in order to create moral equivalency between its crimes and “in bad country” enemy nations. People of NATO can tell themselves “everyone does it” and believe that genocide is just 21st century realpolitik if they believe that their absolutely depraved fictive enemies are doing the same thing. “Every accusation is a confession”.
Link to UN genocide convention
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.pdf
That’s at least a fair and well reasoned argument as to where you might get such a number, and by no means was I intending to downplay the evil of the U.S.
I’ll be honest that I thought the indigenous American genocide has already been successfully completed. Is it still ongoing?
I also only have a vague idea about Yemen. Could you provide some resources on where to get some decent information on it?
There are ~2 million indigenous Americans scattered around the country from many different tribes, nations, and ethnic groups. The us is still using a lot of it’s old colonial systems, for example the “blood quantum” system, intended to exterminate indigenous Americans as a distinct culture. Indigenous Americans are also trapped in conditions of extreme poverty due to both historic and contemporary policies that are de facto social murder. It’s a big, awful, complex issue due to how many different groups of indigenous people their are, the us’s patchwork of quasi-independent states, and all sorts of other stuff but if you stand back far enough it’s genocide.
For Yemen, you’d want to look at the US/Saudi war against the Houthis that started back during Obama/Biden. The Saudis couldn’t win a fist fight with a drunk card board box let alone fight Ansarallah on the ground. So they went with extermination by destroying food, water, and medical infrastructure to spread disease and starvation. It’s the quickest way to murder huge numbers of people, especially children.