Abortion rights activists were unhappy with the president’s comments, as millions of people are being denied access to abortion care in nearly half the country.

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    It’s not a huge deal but why preface it though? All you have to say is “Roe vs Wade was the correct decision and a woman has the right to choose”

    I’m “big on abortion” because it’s a human right and I like human rights. And it doesn’t really matter if a cis man is “big on abortion” because these laws will never affect him and his body. He’s just trying to appeal to Christians because Christians control so much of this country 🤮

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      And it doesn’t really matter if a cis man is “big on abortion” because these laws will never affect him and his body.

      I’m pro-choice but I’ve heard this and many similar things said and it’s such a ridiculous thing to say.

      “It doesn’t really matter what you think about inhumane treatment for XYZ medical condition because you’re not a doctor and you don’t have that condition”

      “It doesn’t matter what you think about banning this important subset of knowledge in K-12 education because you’ve already aged out”

      Believe it or not, things can affect you even if they’re not directly happening to you. People don’t exist in a vacuum.

      Disregarding someone’s opinion has never once changed someone’s opinion.

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        “Big on abortion” in this situation means “other women can have abortions but I wouldn’t choose to”

        But he will never be pregnant and never need an abortion, so of course he will never have to choose to have an abortion. The only people whose opinion matters when someone needs an abortion is the pregnant person and their doctor. Plenty of people who were “not big on abortion” ended up getting an abortion when it affected them.

        You are allowed to have an opinion sure, but your opinion is irrelevant when it comes down to the decision because it’s a healthcare decision. Do you want to have to take every other person’s opinion into account whenever you make a medical decision? I highly doubt you would make the same argument if this applied to your medical decisions.

        What if I want to take a medical treatment that doctors and I agree will save my life if you personally think it’s inhumane? I should just fuck off and not get a choice despite what doctors and I think are in my best interest? I’m on birth control for medical issues and plenty of people think it has too many side effects to be legal, why should they get to decide because they had a bad experience when it has worked for me?

        What if I don’t have a kid in your school, but show up to a school board meeting with all my friends to say teaching kids math is inhumane and it needs to be removed from the curriculum? People are doing that RIGHT NOW near me, mandating the removal of pride flags and banning the use of kids preferred pronouns. Do they have kids in the school district? No. It’s a bunch of people from a mega church near by being told to do this by their pastor. But according to you, they should be respected.

        Comparing it to inhumane medical treatments highlight your true feelings on the subject.

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          “Big on abortion” in this situation means “other women can have abortions but I wouldn’t choose to”

          He’s Catholic. If you can’t see that to mean “I see abortion as similar to taking a life” then there’s no reason for me to read the rest of your wall of text.

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      You can’t get elected by being honest, really. The optimal president is one who appeals to the most common middle ground with as many people as possible (single issue voters notwithstanding). He’s hoping to acknowledge moderate Christians who, having perfectly valid opinions on abortion, disagreed with overturning major Supreme Court decisions on culture war activists. Moderates are the only people who you can move on the ballot, sadly.