🚒 iPhone vs Android 🚒
Round 394!
ok but in all seriousness, let’s say I want to send some SMS/RCS using my cell, but I want to do that from the computer… should be feasible?
iPhone’s iMessage: “we love our walled garden so much that NO ONE can send messages using a web interface, despite iMessage being an iCloud enabled app and the ecosystem having iCloud apps available online to any non-Mac – but we decided that iMessage alone should never be usable on the iCloud web interface (because reasons?)”
Android via Messages App: “sure thing fellow Happy Camper! here you go! https://messages.google.com and it’s just as secure as using the device itself.”
Best part… Android’s method WORKS ON FREEBSD!
#noFlameWarNeeded #iPhone #Android #mobileDevices #FreeBSD #Linux #Apple
@winterschon@bsd.cafe If you can view your iMessage messages on the web it means that Apple has your encryption keys. That would entirely defeat end to end encryption. And when a government agency comes to Apple to get a copy of your messages, they would have to surrender them, something they cannot do today.
@shac@ioc.exchange No, that’s not correct. It seems you have gotten some misinformation. See the following for a recent implementation:
https://tjthinakaran.blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Beeper-attachment-3-28-24.pdf
@shac @winterschon A convenience bonus for Google and perhaps a reason to dislike iOS. How does WhatsApp web manage to maintain e2e encryption, then?
Webapps generally rely on TLS for data in transit, but full E2EE requires data at rest encryption as well
Since whatsapp is not a part of the hardware storage at the block level it has no control over anything other than the data it presents to the OS – which may or may not be encrypted separately.
I don’t use whatsapp so I’ve not looked into that side of its implementation, but here’s the NCC audit if that seems appealing to review: https://www.nccgroup.com/media/phzpm0qv/_ncc_group_metaplatforms_e008327_report_2023-11-14_v10.pdf
@winterschon@bsd.cafe @shac@ioc.exchange Thank you for this! I’m starting to understand.
@winterschon@bsd.cafe too bad that RCS isn’t currently (reliably) working for me on GrapheneOS 😔
