In a ‘TrueUnpopularOpinion’ post titled ‘I’m pro choice but y’all do a horrible job of understanding the pro life position’. The comments are full of brain worms, but the winner of the Galaxy brain award has to be this specimen, who claims that Pro-Choicers have been fire-bombing Pregnancy Care clinics in response to the Supreme Court decision.

Except if you follow the link, there is one case someone spray painting graffiti on a clinic in Florida: “If abortions aren’t safe than neither are you,”. This act isn’t defensible IMO, but if you go down through the rest of the list, EVERY ONE is an example of (mostly actual) violence or blockades against health care providers who offer abortion or adjacent services. 10 occurrences from the list are acts against Planned Parenthood clinics.

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  • regul [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    37·
    11 months ago

    This act isn’t defensible IMO

    Bzzt! Wrong-o.

    “Crisis Pregnancy Centers” should be getting firebombed.

    • GenXen [any, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      11·
      11 months ago

      Point Taken. Maybe ‘defensible’ is the wrong sentiment from what I want to convey. Debates about justification aside, I just don’t want to appear to hand wave it away in the same way that Pro-Lifers do with ACTUAL violence.

      There’s still this lib part in my brain that says “iF wE aDvOcAtE vIoLeNcE, tHeY’lL uSe It To JuStIfY tHeIrS!”, while of course, staring at the obvious reality that they are using one example of graffiti and another example of reminding CPC patients about their reproductive rights against a litany of examples of real threats and violence against Planned Parenthood and Abortion clinics.

      Whether CPCs should be getting firebombed is secondary to the fact that they currently aren’t despite the claim.

  • Judge_Jury [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    25·
    11 months ago

    The birth-forcing crowd has no compunctions about lying because they literally think their god is with them.

    On the left we couldn’t get much use out of lies if we tried. You can’t really use lies to build people’s understanding of social sciences, and any acute use we might have for lying is usually outweighed by the damage it would do to the mass political consciousness we need to foster

    The Evangelical right, though? Spend time with them and you’ll hear a lot of sentiments like, “Lying is a sin just like killing, but nothing is a sin in service of God” and particularly regarding medical disinfo about abortions, “if it stops even one abortion it’s worth it”

  • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    14·
    11 months ago

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6318184/

    CPCs have been around since the late 1960s, primarily in states that permitted abortion, but their numbers grew significantly during the 1980s and 1990s after the national legalization of abortion. According to the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), an advocacy organization committed to ensuring abortion access, there are an estimated 2500 CPCs in the US, compared to only 800 abortion clinics. In some states, CPCs outnumber abortion providers by ratios as high as 15:1. Numerous states fund CPCs either directly or indirectly through the sale of “Choose Life” license plates. For example, in Pennsylvania, taxpayer money directly funds CPCs via legislation that creates grants for “nonprofit agencies whose primary function is to assist pregnant women seeking alternatives to abortion.” Through this mechanism, the Pennsylvania Department of Human Services gave over $30 million in grant money to Real Alternatives, a funding conduit for CPCs, from 2012 to 2017. Pennsylvania was also the first of a handful of states to use federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) dollars, which are intended to provide safety-net monies for low-income families, to fund CPCs. Many CPCs throughout the country also receive state and federal funds to promote and conduct abstinence-only sexual education in public schools.

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