I’m not a Green Day fan, but thanks @kvn@midwest.social for reminding me of this awesome song!
There are better Green Day songs but if this is the one that you vibe with then rock on
No such thing as “better”. It’s music. It’s too subjective. Can’t help what ya like my friend!
At the core of this disagreement is the argument for better being represented as the number zero or pi. Maybe we don’t actually disagree but agree for such different reasons that it seems like we have opposing opinions
not sure what you mean, but it’s all good.
Well it’s like this from what I can gather better doesn’t exist for you because we all have differing opinions of better, in this way better could be defined as the number zero because anything times the number zero is zero and therefore mutually exclusive. On the other hand I see better as an infinite number like pi, within it all the different definitions of better can exist concurrently. One way or another these opposing viewpoints both lead to the same conclusion, appreciation for the subjectivity of better. Like I said in the end you and I agree but for such radically different reasons that it seems like we disagree.
ha! yeah, my brain broke. ;)
Was it awesome? I feel like I remember green day falling off sometime around, like, ‘97
I don’t know. Not a fan, but the heart loves what it loves and I love this song.
I think you’re right about them falling off around 97 or so. But I think American Idiot in 2004 was considered a comeback for them. Sure they became more mainstream with some of those singles but like said in the daily challenge thread I was 12 and they were awesome to me at the time.
No shade for OP, but I thought this was a low point in Green Day history. Their newer albums even sound a bit more like the stuff that came before American Idiot. AI was catchy but soulless. Again, all my opinion, but I would recommend any of their albums before this one.
Again just shows how subjective this all is. American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown are my absolute favourites of their albums.
Yeah, they very much started “using the revolution to sell their band” while masquerading as using their band to sell the revolution. Bush was in office and they literally changed their clothes and their sound to…capitalize on it. They became pop punk, whereas before they had found an organic sound that landed somewhere between punk and more traditional “rock.” I mean, dookie was a masterpiece that entirely captured the landscape—lightning in a bottle. And then everything that came after was still pretty good for a few years. But like a tv writers room that starts to lose the thread and starts writing a show that resembles the show that came before, like a copy of a copy, the quality starts suffering.
I haven’t listened to any Green Day since Warning. But you can very easily track the progression from their punk roots in (two thousand something) smoothed out slappy hours and kerplunk!, to a slightly more polished (mixed in a little grunge/rock) in dookie, (Slight stumble/“sophomore slump” at insomniac), picked up the thread at nimrod…and then the new millennium brought warning and it was sort of the beginning of the end.
Now, this is me remembering the band’s trajectory as I experienced it growing up. Dookie was my first tape, the first time I ever said the word “fuck” was because we showed our babysitter the secret song at the end and I didn’t understand, so I repeated it, they were my favorite band since I could have a favorite band. But I grew into adolescence and they…gave up. They tried to stay relevant and their quality took a nosedive. I mean, there was also a story of young kids who made it big, got addicted to drugs, and cleaned their act up as they started families and just became middle aged rich guys. So, a capitalist success story. But a typical punk/art/music failing, in my eyes. But that’s what capitalism does to art. Chews it up and spits it out.
