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      It’s much like a rebellion or revolution (which Jan 6 was). You either win and become revolutionaries, or you hang for treason.

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          If you were beating cops and entered the capital building you’re guilty. I can’t stand how long this has taken.

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    Smart enough to be a lawyer, yet dumb enough to not understand that loyalty with Trump is a one-way street.

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    Giuliani is begging for Trump’s help to pay his legal fees, and he’s not getting it. Trump won’t take care of anyone but Trump. And Ivanka.

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        I’m guessing Trump is betting on a conviction but having his sentence just be house arrest. And if they don’t take away his phone, not that much difference than his current life sans touring. And if he wins the Presidency, obviously his sentence must be halted. Or just interpret the “house” as the white house and all presidential property or some shit.

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          I don’t understand how the US constitution allows a convicted felon to be president.

          What’s it even for if it allows that?

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            There are certain crimes at certain levels that bar one from running for office; attempted coup and dissemination of national secrets to our enemies being some of the reasons to exclude one from seeking/holding office, and such charges account for 3 of his 4 current cases. The hush money to Stormy Daniels/campaign finance violations are likely not enough to keep him from office.

            Edit: Also our judicial system is based on the premise that one is innocent until proven guilty, so just being charged with a crime is typically not enough to level punishments as if one had been convicted yet. It’s supposed to make him an undesirable candidate, but decorum doesn’t matter anymore all of a sudden. 🤷‍♀️

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            The same way game developers miss game breaking bugs when you do bizarre things to achieve them. It happens because who the fuck would ever think of that until some crazy person goes and does it?

            Like jumping between parallel universes in super Mario 64. It is so unexpected you don’t plan for it. If even if they did, why would any prison bound candidate have any chance of winning under any normal circumstances?

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            What if some tyrants take over and make it a federal felony to run against them? That’s how Putin stays in power. But if being a convicted felon doesn’t stop you from taking office, then the tyrants can’t use that to keep themselves in power.

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            The vast majority of felonies should not be a bar to holding public office. What if you had a felony conviction for possession of weed? Should that bar you from holding office or should you be allowed to run for office to try and change an unjust law?

            The only crimes that should bar one from office are the ones that already do under the 14th Amendment, under which Trump should already be ineligible. He swore an oath to defend the Constitution and then participated in a conspiracy to violently overthrow it.

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        161 different acts of racketeering and/or acts to further the conspiracy.

        And all the prosecutor needs to prove is two acts of racketeering. The false statements alone are obvious enough.

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      Maybe Ivanka. If dropping her into the hole would save his ass, I would not bet on her future to be good.

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        Nah, he’d help Ivanka if she agreed to terms I’m sure. Ivana on the other hand is going to end up in a hole on a golf course with the other one.

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    LMFAO! Another case where Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump’s lawyers now need their own lawyers. And he is too cheap to pay for his lawyer’s lawyers.

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      He rarely pays his own lawyers, why the heck would he pay anyone else’s?

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    Ellis on X reposted Trump ally Matt Schlapp, who suggested that other GOP presidential candidates drop out of the Republican primary so that party members can use donations for legal defenses.

    What a world. Lawyer for former president of the united states calls on his competing candidates to voluntarily abort their campaigns, so he can better raise funds not for his own campaign, but to pay the unrelated legal fees of the co-conspirators who helped him attempt a coup in the last election that he lost!

    This is a real thing that’s actually happening.

    This is a real thing that’s actually happening…

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    Haha good luck that. Trump won’t even pay his own defense fees. What makes these ass-clowns think he’ll pay for theirs?

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    He will need all the money for himself. His stance is probably “Nice that you helped me, bitch, but I’m not paying for your trouble”.