I’m saying “gender affirming” care isn’t health care in the same way that other elective surgeries aren’t either. It’s got nothing to do with “health”.
None of these are studies… One is even a fucking tabloid… I said CREDIBLE source. I’ll go over them since I’m bored but when someone says credible source use Google scholar and you have a chance of getting a result that at least looks credible.
The FDA is some government org in the US, right? As I said I was talking about medical organisations and pretty much all of those have approved puberty blockers for trans healthcare.
That is false. The situation you described can only happen if someone started puberty blockers at 10 and started taking estrogen and testosterone blockers at 18. As in never had testosterone. In that situation penis size is not really a factor anyway.
That page on bone density doesn’t even mention anything about minors starting on puberty blockers. Or bone density not recovering. Did you link a random Google result without reading it?
A newspaper looking like a tabloid making the claim by a surgeon that if someone is on puberty blockers they won’t orgasm. Not only is the source ridiculous, a surgeon is as qualified of making that claim as a mathematician.
Yes, if you never go through puberty you are infertile. Puberty blockers don’t cause you to become sterile forever as you claimed.
Why are you linking newspaper articles instead of studies? Especially one behind a paywall?
Why are you linking newspaper articles instead of studies?
Because there are no studies, that’s the point!
There are no long term studies on all these “gender affirming” treatments. It’s experimentation. That’s why more and more countries are banning them citing lack of long term studies and knowledge of long term effects.
You’re just hand waving away everything that proves my point so I’m done here as you’re clearly not actually open to learning.
Of course there are, just use Google scholar also I hope you don’t consider tabloid newspapers as learning.
Also countries aren’t banning trans healthcare as far as I know and even if they were that would be a political move, once medical organisations do that I would consider looking into why. Politicians have like zero clue about healthcare and those decisions should be left for doctors.
Not FDA approved for “gender dysphoria”. Using them for it is an “off label” use. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/well/family/what-are-puberty-blockers.html
A “smaller dick” is an understatement. Imagine an 18 year old kid with a penis the size of a 10 year olds - that’s what they get. A micro penis.
Bone density does not recover. https://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/endocrinology/news/managing-skeletal-issues-in-transgender-and-gender-nonconforming-individuals/mac-20477707
As for inability to orgasm: https://thepostmillennial.com/gender-affirming-surgeon-admits-children-who-undergo-transition-before-puberty-never-attain-sexual-satisfaction
As for infertility, unless you go through puberty you’re infertile. Using puberty blockers and then taking cross sex hormones means you’re infertile.
As for surgery on minors, it happens all the time: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/health/top-surgery-transgender-teenagers.html
I’m saying “gender affirming” care isn’t health care in the same way that other elective surgeries aren’t either. It’s got nothing to do with “health”.
None of these are studies… One is even a fucking tabloid… I said CREDIBLE source. I’ll go over them since I’m bored but when someone says credible source use Google scholar and you have a chance of getting a result that at least looks credible.
The FDA is some government org in the US, right? As I said I was talking about medical organisations and pretty much all of those have approved puberty blockers for trans healthcare.
That is false. The situation you described can only happen if someone started puberty blockers at 10 and started taking estrogen and testosterone blockers at 18. As in never had testosterone. In that situation penis size is not really a factor anyway.
That page on bone density doesn’t even mention anything about minors starting on puberty blockers. Or bone density not recovering. Did you link a random Google result without reading it?
A newspaper looking like a tabloid making the claim by a surgeon that if someone is on puberty blockers they won’t orgasm. Not only is the source ridiculous, a surgeon is as qualified of making that claim as a mathematician.
Yes, if you never go through puberty you are infertile. Puberty blockers don’t cause you to become sterile forever as you claimed.
Why are you linking newspaper articles instead of studies? Especially one behind a paywall?
Because there are no studies, that’s the point!
There are no long term studies on all these “gender affirming” treatments. It’s experimentation. That’s why more and more countries are banning them citing lack of long term studies and knowledge of long term effects.
You’re just hand waving away everything that proves my point so I’m done here as you’re clearly not actually open to learning.
Of course there are, just use Google scholar also I hope you don’t consider tabloid newspapers as learning.
Also countries aren’t banning trans healthcare as far as I know and even if they were that would be a political move, once medical organisations do that I would consider looking into why. Politicians have like zero clue about healthcare and those decisions should be left for doctors.