This is not the way, it’s better to work less hours per day than working more hours and fewer days. Productivity peaks at 6 hours, after that you’re either less focused or just doing unproductive things. It’s also gonna burn out harder.
What about less days and less hours ? That’s just me (or is it?), but I’m always better and more enthusiastic at anything I do when that thing doesn’t take up 80% of my awake time. I always solve problems when going back to them after a pause -always !
I mean yeah, that could absolutely work. My point isn’t so much about the total amount of hours or days, just that it’s not worth piling up too many hours just to work fewer days.
Yeah, totally respect your opinion, but I emphatically disagree with it. The goal of what’s being discussed here isn’t to maximize production for the sake of shareholders, it’s to maximize quality of life for employees. To that end, five six-hour days are worse than four 8-to-10-hour days.
If I start work at 8 and get off work at 2:30 or 3, I still can’t start my camping trip a day early, or spend the day at the water park with my kids. I still have to give up n x 10 hours of my life, where n is my commute time, assume I work in-office.
I would much rather work until 630 Monday through Thursday, and have an extra day where full-day activities are possible every week. That’s worth more to me than 10 extra hours per week of after-work time.
Yeah, I’m sure that works better for a lot of people, think it’s just a personal preference thing.
But if you’re starting at 7:30, a 10 hour day would only put you at 5:30… and then you get three consecutive days to yourself every single weekend. To me, that sounds amazing, but maybe it’s not for everyone.
Edit: Shit if I had the option to work 3 13 hour days and getting 4 days off a week, I would probably take that more weeks than not. Kind of depends on what you’re doing though I guess. 13 hours in retail or food service would be absolute hell.
I think flexibility is key. There are days where I peak my productivity at 4 hours. There are days where I get in the flow and can be productive for 12.
That’s admittedly a great point. I think my record was either 12 or 16 hours a day, but it’s incredibly exceptional. Anything above 8 hours of actual, productive work is the result of high enjoyment and focus or a deadline panic mode that’s not sustainable. I think setting 6 hours as a baseline and being able to tweak from there would be ideal, but setting an expectation of over 8 hours as a tradeoff for fewer days is harmful imo.
How does me thinking it’s more sustainable to work fewer hours per day instead of more make me out to be a greedy businessman? I didn’t even propose working more days, just fewer hours.
This is not the way, it’s better to work less hours per day than working more hours and fewer days. Productivity peaks at 6 hours, after that you’re either less focused or just doing unproductive things. It’s also gonna burn out harder.
What about less days and less hours ? That’s just me (or is it?), but I’m always better and more enthusiastic at anything I do when that thing doesn’t take up 80% of my awake time. I always solve problems when going back to them after a pause -always !
I’m with you. I recently asked my boss about part time options, and she laughed at me.
I mean yeah, that could absolutely work. My point isn’t so much about the total amount of hours or days, just that it’s not worth piling up too many hours just to work fewer days.
Yeah, totally respect your opinion, but I emphatically disagree with it. The goal of what’s being discussed here isn’t to maximize production for the sake of shareholders, it’s to maximize quality of life for employees. To that end, five six-hour days are worse than four 8-to-10-hour days.
If I start work at 8 and get off work at 2:30 or 3, I still can’t start my camping trip a day early, or spend the day at the water park with my kids. I still have to give up n x 10 hours of my life, where n is my commute time, assume I work in-office.
I would much rather work until 630 Monday through Thursday, and have an extra day where full-day activities are possible every week. That’s worth more to me than 10 extra hours per week of after-work time.
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Yeah, I’m sure that works better for a lot of people, think it’s just a personal preference thing.
But if you’re starting at 7:30, a 10 hour day would only put you at 5:30… and then you get three consecutive days to yourself every single weekend. To me, that sounds amazing, but maybe it’s not for everyone.
Edit: Shit if I had the option to work 3 13 hour days and getting 4 days off a week, I would probably take that more weeks than not. Kind of depends on what you’re doing though I guess. 13 hours in retail or food service would be absolute hell.
I think flexibility is key. There are days where I peak my productivity at 4 hours. There are days where I get in the flow and can be productive for 12.
That’s admittedly a great point. I think my record was either 12 or 16 hours a day, but it’s incredibly exceptional. Anything above 8 hours of actual, productive work is the result of high enjoyment and focus or a deadline panic mode that’s not sustainable. I think setting 6 hours as a baseline and being able to tweak from there would be ideal, but setting an expectation of over 8 hours as a tradeoff for fewer days is harmful imo.
Nice try Zoom CEO
How does me thinking it’s more sustainable to work fewer hours per day instead of more make me out to be a greedy businessman? I didn’t even propose working more days, just fewer hours.
I used to work 3 12 hour days a week. It was infinitely better than a 5 day week. No burnout.