• xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Okay, hold on!

    The original azov wolfsangel insignia was a Nazi dogwhistle (you agreed with this!), but a little churn and a change of management and the exact same name and insignia are somehow fine?

    How does that work?

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      By people not considering the name and symbol tarnished enough to change? By not considering the symbol more important than the actual lived political practice (or rather lack thereof) in the regiment?

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        If the new management doesn’t consider at the very least the symbol chosen to appeal to Nazis tarnished enough to change when they take control of the Nazi militia then the new management are Nazis too.

        If it was chosen to appeal to Nazis then by not changing it they’re choosing to continue appealing to Nazis!

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          Yet simultaneously they cracked down on Nazis. Sounds like a contradiction, doesn’t it? That’s because you’re putting more meaning into the symbol than others.

          Or, differently put: Why don’t you stop arguing symbols and research how Azov troops think in 2023.

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            1 year ago

            Ah yes, why don’t I ask people teaming under a Nazi banner what they think?

            Because their Nazi banner tells me what they think! If they didn’t think that way they’d choose another banner!

            Stop defending Nazis.

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              And it’s a Nazi banner because… they’re Nazis because they have a Nazi banner?

              And no you don’t have to actually talk to them. Plenty of information out there. If you want armed right-wingers to worry about in Ukraine then that’d be Right Sector.

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                  If Nazis advertise with free pudding does that make all pudding eaters Nazis?

                  this isn’t tough stuff. stop defending nazis.

                  You’re trying very hard to hold up a connection which is tenable at best. Also, stop fucking insulting people as Nazis for disagreeing with you. Have I expressed anything but disagreement with Nazis here, anywhere? I haven’t for my whole fucking life. Touch grass.

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                    I never called anyone disagreeing with me a Nazi. It’s worth noting though that a moderator of this very website called you a Nazi as their reason for removing your post equating the swastika and the unexpounded upon Germanic culture the Nazis appropriated.

                    Azov marches under a Nazi banner. We both know it’s a Nazi banner because we agreed it was chosen to dogwhistle to nazis. If someone marches under a Nazi banner, would you say they’re a Nazi? If not, what if they march under a Nazi banner for a state that banned all communist parties?

                    Azov is nazis. Stop defending nazis.