I apparently skipped level ??? and went straight to believing the Black Book is fascist propaganda. I didn’t realize I was supposed to stan Pol Pot first!
The US State Department and the United Nations are at Tankie Level 45 :che-smile:
of course the socialist US government and communist UN are full of tankies!!! My musket is at the ready to repel them when they inevitably invade my home in Chudtown, Idaho
I have literally never seen anyone defend the Khmer Rouge, ever lol
The Khmer Rouge were defended by the US and got up to $215 million in weapons from them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_United_States_support_for_the_Khmer_Rouge
Ya i know that that’s why i can’t imagine any tankies defending them lol
Pol Pot wasn’t a Marxist, so there will be no Tankies that will defend Pol Pot.
lol why is the last level beyond ???, the last level statement is just objectively true.
TFW you don’t take the black book at face value
I think this whole thing is a joke. The way it lays out the 1932 famine/Holodomor is too on the nose to be serious.
This is a situation in which I am happy to defend Chomsky. At the point of writing there was little evidence for some of the most extraordinary claims, claims which were similarly leveled from propaganda channels against socialist regimes in Vietnam and else were - often without a base. Chomsky did alter his opinion based on new sources and contrasting evidence. However the people who do critique Chomsky do it mostly for anti communist reasons, ignore his later writings and at the same time ignore that the USA did support the Red Khmer after the evidence came out for quite a bit.
Let me quote wikipedia to make a point about how it is leveled and against whom it is leveled:
In addition to Chomsky, Porter, and Hildebrand, the atrocities of the Khmer Rouge have also been denied and/or whitewashed by such academics as Marxist scholar Malcolm Caldwell, Laura Summers,[18] Edward S. Herman, and Torben Retbøll.[19]
All I’m saying is that it’s very suspicious that the only AES state Chomsky has ever defended was funded by the CIA
indeed. And he was on the Epstein flight logsTo be fair he might have defended Cuba too but I can’t recall whether he did or not
Yes he did/does.
you can find them but they’re fringe. Usually weirdos who are just dipping their toes in marxism and think the khmer rouge must have been lied about, and then outright weirdo agendaposters there to wreck communism with their terrible takes. You can spot the latter because they’re historical revisionists outright, like cherry-picking quotes and parts of documents that support their narrative and usually nothing more substantial to offer if you press them.
I’m just saying I ain’t never seent it
Yeah, I’ve seen a depressingly large number of the first lot. (Though that number is still only in the low double digits, any is really a depressing number).
I think it is as simple as them being idealists. They’ve “read Pol Pot” or whatever and assume that because he wrote something halfway decent on paper, all the of the actual actions of the Khmer Rouge are irrelevant.
Alternatively they might take the attitude of “the west lies about every other AES, therefore everything bad that happened in Cambodia was also a lie.”
I remember seeing like maybe two or three over a course of several years back on reddit.
And that is actually very telling, even on a website where you’ll find tons of people who have latched on to the most baby-brained ideologies possible, many of which only really exist in vidyagames, it’s exeedingly rare to come across anyone who has anything positive to say about the KR at all.
Some MLMs did even after the news got out, most notably some Gonzalo supporters. But even there not a lot would support him once he threw in with the monarchy.
The ML party here in Norway (AKP-ML) did at the time, but denounced them later
The state department did once upon a time, but that’s not a tale the libs will tell you
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Some of the new left intellectuals did, such as infamously Noam Chomsky, or Samir Amin.
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Supposedly a few exist. I’ve never seen one either.
What level of getting owned by marxists and being salty about it is this guy on
Oh fuck, I never got a Che shirt, so I’m not even a tankie
doesn’t matter, just take a regular t-shirt, cut off the sleeves and turn it into a tankie top
Pro tip if you’re gonna strawman an entire ideology don’t tell people thinking landlords should get the wall is one of the most extreme beliefs that group has, you’re gonna get the not insane 70% of the population on that side immediately.
you’re gonna get the not insane 70% of the population on that side
oh, I don’t know, there’s a lot of landlord-sympathizers out there. especially in Canada (not that that really matters to non-Canadians)
But what about the mom and pop landlords?
Hey, lookie here! I’ve got a mom and pop wall just for them.
I’ve seen Anarchists agree that Mao did the right thing with landlords
violence against landlords doesn’t require a state.In fact, when Mao started that he wasn’t even in charge of a state yet!
Most of the purges started when the ROC retreated and the peasants could do what they wanted without a capitalist state protecting their oppressors
The Communists actually regulated the violence. It would probably have been even worse if they didn’t cannel it into trials. Even if those trials were show trials.
if you know an anarchist who doesn’t, spoiler, they’re probably not an anarchist lmao. Mao got the the thing with the landlords right is a left unity point.
“russian people aren’t warmonger creatures”? fucking WILD that thats supposed to be a bad or absurd opinion. someone get these freaks the calipers
Geez, yeah, I somehow read over that blatant racism on first take.
Excuse me, “warmongering creatures”? Creatures? Bet this fucker thinks they’re not racist, no sireebob.
“Everyone I don’t like is NPCs” a bedtime story for liberals with Main Character Syndrome.
i will never like Khmer Rouge. why would i like a fucking feudalist experiment?
USA backed it and Vietnamese tankies ended it, why would any tanksie support it
China also supported Khmer Rouge and then attacked Vietnam for stopping a genocide so it’s a messy situation that anyone trying to make “tankies” look bad can twist.
But the soviets supported the vietnamese and so the ideology sandwich is complete
We need a “What level of liberal are you?” with very similar framing. First step can be “blames everything that goes wrong in capitalism on Putler and Chinese bots.”
Except they fucked this up and put some pretty mild beliefs at the top end of the whole scale.
It’d be like if I had a “what level of liberal are you” and level 4800000 was “I overlook deeper philosophical considerations when consuming media I enjoy”
Fuck, you’re right.
I’d need to get into scientific notation to reach “I see criticism of my treats as a direct attack on my identity and wish death upon the treat critic.”
First step can be “blames everything that goes wrong in capitalism on Putler and Chinese bots.”
I’m kinda thinking that at this point this could just be every step.
When was the last time che shirts were a thing? I swear I’ve seen more conservatives making fun of che shirts than I have actual unironic che shirts.
Anyways, The last time I smiled was on August 19th, 1991. I wear a dirty ushanka at all times, do not shave, and only take cold sponge baths because hot running water is bourgeoisie decadence. Every day at exactly noon I have the same meal of an expired Maoist MRE I store in a pit covered in old issues of a revolutionary newspaper. I sleep in a bed made of flags from every failed revolution so that they are never forgotten. In the evenings I stare at a picture of vodka by candlelight, but I do not allow myself to drink because there is nothing to celebrate. Every local org has banned me after I attempted to split it by assassinating the leadership. There is no plumbing in my house I shit in a brass bucket with a picture of Gonzalo and Deng french kissing in the bottom of it. My house is actually an overturned T34 in an abandoned junkyard in Wisconsin. I have a single friend in this world and it is a tapeworm named Bordiga that I met after ingesting spoiled borscht on 9/11 in the ruins of building 7 (I blew it up after finding that a nominally leftist NGO inside of it wasn’t sufficiently anti-imperialist, the attacks on the world trade center were a perfect revolutionary moment for me to enact direct praxis against liberalism). My source of income is various MLM schemes in the former soviet bloc that have been running for so long no one remembers who I am, they just keep sending money. I have not paid taxes since McGovern lost the Democratic nomination for president and my faith in electoralism died more brutally than my childhood dog after it got into an entire jar of tylenol. I own 29 fully automatic rusted kalashnikovs and three crates of ammunition entirely incompatible with them or any other firearms I own. My double PHD in marxist economics and 18th century Swiss philosophy (required to understand Engels) sits over the fireplace of my home, my fireplace is a salvaged drum from a 1950s washing machine that was recalled for locking children inside of it. I chose that washing machine model on purpose because I am anti-natalist. During the latest BLM protests I firebombed a Nikes outlet in the middle of a peaceful candlelit vigil. William F Buckley and I wrote hatemail to one another for 47 years until my final letter gave him an aneurysm. The only water I drink is from puddles. George Lucas and I dropped acid together during an MKULTRA southern baptist summer camp and he went on to write the movie Willow about our time together. The best way to test whether an electrical wire is live is to drool on it and shrimp salad is racist. You can make an IED out of potassium and the instructions are online thanks to Timothy McVey, who was actually a committed antifascist communist slandered by the deep state as part of operation condor. Every time a liberal files a restraining order against me, I carve a mark into the wall. I am running out of walls. When Amerika finally collapses I will be ready to lead the revolution. I am very smart and people like being around me.
When was the last time che shirts were a thing?
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I did in fact see one last week on campus
The last time i saw one was on a college campus 20 years ago
I think this is a bit. The 1932 famine/Holodomor line is too on the nose, and a couple of others don’t sound particularly good faith.
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if it’s real
if it’s a bit written by a commie.- I think the Mao landlord line is too agreeable
it’s so hard to distinguish if it’s a :LIB: with no self-awareness, since that’s kinda the whole thing they do
The only lib part is pol pot.
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They think orthodox marxism is just a process of ignoring more and more things. Literally what liberal ideology is built on.
And the idea seems to be that “tankies” are bad because of a series of unconnected Disrespectful statements theyve made about vintage history and geopolitics that have nothing to do with us. No insight to the philosophy just shit that’d make your grandma gasp at the dinner table. So simplistic.
Tankie is a 1950s britbong insult made up by butthurt do-nothings. Dont dignify it anymore, reject it. Dont make it real
I used to think this but then found this website full of beautiful people owning it and wearing it as a badge of honor
Anyway Marx wasn’t authoritarian enough I’m an orthodox Englesist
Anyway Marx wasn’t authoritarian enough I’m an orthodox Englesist
now imagine this as one of those mafia mobile game ads
level 1 tankie walking with his girlfriend and then he gets beaten up by some guy wearing glasses and his girlfriend leaves him, so he levels up to “khmer rouge supporter” and kills that guy’s entire family
that’s how mafia works
Got to “warmongering creatures” and then it stopped being funny
It’s disgusting that this sentiment has become so normalized; even Russians who just want to go on steam to buy video games have to put up with this hateful rhetoric (and ironically by people in the Imperial core no less).
How people from countries that participated in America’s vicious military efforts can unironically say something like this I’ll never understand. Legit, we should be the last people on the planet to refer to the people of any other nation as ‘warmongering creatures’. There were people literally publicly begging Trump to pardon war criminals before he left office.
One of the stated goals for the Chinese cloistering their internet from everyone else was to limit public engagement with anti-Chinese racism online. Most Chinese people in my experience have very positive opinions on America and Americans and imo it is because they don’t engage with the English speaking internet.
My alienation from liberalism was kickstarted very early in my life when all the adults around me suddenly became warmongering creatures about Iraq and Afghanistan
