I installed Linux mint on my Lenovo X131e and installing updates has been problematic. Initially I thought only Firefox was not “getting internet” but looking at the apt-get messages it appears even that is having issues.

I have never been much a Linux user since the mid90s. But have used it off and on.

I am going to be using this in my game shop to display stuff on my monitors around the shop, mostly event codes and event standings for Magic the gathering (this uses a webpage from wizards). And to play music.

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    • ping or mtr your router and verify there are no dropped packets (ex: ping 192.168.0.1 or mtr 192.168.0.1 where 192.168.0.1 is your router’s IP)
    • ping or mtr a public IP (ex: Cloudflare’s DNS server: ping 1.1.1.1)
    • ping or mtr a fqdn (ping www.google.com)

    If you can ping your local router with no dropped packets, your local network is probably fine

    If you can’t ping 1.1.1.1, then there is an issue between your router and the Internet. Look at the output of mtr to see if/where there is packet loss

    If you can ping 1.1.1.1, but not www.google.com then your issue may be DNS. Verify your DNS server IPs

    *If you don’t know your router’s IP, try ‘route -n’ and the default gateway should be the non 0.0.0.0 entry under the Gateway column, usually it’s in the first line

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      I ended up having to not use the Broadcom wifi adapter drivers, even doing that was unstable and had to switch to a wired connection. Thank you for all of the information.

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    See the network icon on the right-hand side of the bottom panel? What does it show when you click it?

    • Is there a “Wireless” section?
    • Does it have an activated checkbox next to it?
    • Is there a little circle to the left of your wireless network name?
    • And what percentage is showing for the link strength?

    If the “Wireless” section is missing, go to the main Mint menu, run “Driver Manager” (under “Administration”), and see if it finds a WLAN driver for you. A working connection in the live environment isn’t necessarily transferred into the installation.

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      I ended up having to not use the Broadcom wifi adapter drivers, even doing that was unstable and had to switch to a wired connection. Thank you for all of the information.

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    this sounds more like network problem than a linux one; but since you’re using linux w/o an internet connection, you’ll have to use the tools that usually come with Linux:

    start with basic information. see if your computer has an ip address and who its primary gateway(s) is/are

    ip a
    ifconfig -a
    
    

    if you see no ip address preceded with the word “inet” these commands (127.0.0.1 doesn’t count); your computer doesn’t think it’s connected to a network and the source of your problem is somewhere with either the hardware, driver or mint itself.

    if you do see an ip address with the word “inet” in front of it; then use that basic information to start troubleshooting; these commands are a shortcut; duplicate information; and should be run in order:

    for i in $(netstat -rn | grep ^0.0.0.0 | awk '{print $2}') ; do ping -c 3 -W 1 $i ; done
    if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then cat /etc/resolv.conf ; traceroute google.com ; fi
    

    this command provides duplicate information but provided here in case mint has really weird packages on it

    for i in $(route -n | grep ^0.0.0.0 | awk '{print $2}') ; do ping -c 3 -W 1 $i ; done
    if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then cat /etc/resolv.conf ; traceroute google.com ; fi
    

    if neither of the last 2 stanzas worked, then your computer doesn’t think it’s connected to a network that has internet access and you need to figure out what’s up with your network or fix routing on your computer.

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      I ended up having to not use the Broadcom wifi adapter drivers, even doing that was unstable and had to switch to a wired connection. Thank you for all of the information.

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    Can you ping IPs (like your router or 1.1.1.1)? Do you have the same behavior over ethernet?

    Also, might be silly bit I’ve been fooled by this more once, have you tested other devices have access to the internet and the specific sites you’re testing with aren’t down?

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      Ping is not working, I cannot even ping the router. All of my other devices have internet. I am thinking it is either my T-Mobile business internet, or the old laptop not working well with 5ghz.

      However, when I did a live usb boot it was working okay.