Lemmy thread about it is hilarious, you can observe as some libs are “Ukraine is winning” and “F16 are gonna change everything” but most of them already taken slow backstep from that position (took them barely 1,5 year!). You can already smell the post Iraq position shuffle in the air.
They’ll still find a way to cope. Just like Iraq (Saddam was ebil dictatoor!), Vietnam (nuh-uh didn’t lose!), fuckin Finnish War (muh hwyte deaff!), and many many more
hwyte deaff
Ya know, I only just noticed that they’ve used a NATO reporting name for the “ghost”, but actual Soviet designations for the “kills”
Here is Putler hacking fake American elections
How many wonderwaffles does it take for a lib to realize that one weapons system very rarely alters the course of an entire conflict?
No no, you see, having your weapon systems cost 5 times as much money as the opposing side’s is a good thing actually. Clearly it means it’s 150 times more effective, according to this marketing presentation I found from the for-profit corporation that makes it and then sells it to the military and this press release from the general whose entire career is intrinsically tied to it, both of whom couldn’t possibly be biased in any way!
No idea, it’s at least 5th in this war alone and they aren’t stopping.
Are F16’s even good? I ask as someone that knows Jack shit about weapons.
They seems average. They do have at least one significant flaw, that large air intake apparently suck up things from runway during take off, which is why the plane need clean airstrip and it could be hard to get when Russians can just strike wherever they want with missiles. And of course the enemy air superiority also make them abot as useful as every other plane, that is not very much after getting bombed while on land.
plus, another thing to put on the table is how well it operates with the other hardware, the country’s tactics and war discipline.
all modern armies work with the combined arms concept, meaning the air force for example it is not a separated entity, it needs the ground forces and the ground need them and so on, not as simples as 1 + 1 = 2.
this is one of the major flaws in ukrainian army, they received a bunch of hardware from different countries and different times, nato and warsaw, nothing combines with each other
The first F-16 flew in 1974
I was going to say that F-16s have been steadily upgraded since then but then realized that they’ll probably be given the oldest, shittiest, machines that could charitably fit a loose definition of “airworthy”.
Obviously, it’s an earlier version of the superior M16 because F is before M in the alphabet.
This is a common misconception, actually the F in F16 stands for Flight, denoting it is an aircraft or other craft capable of sustained flight, and the M in M16 stands for Meapon.
actually the F in F16 stands for Flight
This does not compute, explain F-35.
Flight 35, it seems pretty obvious to me
Shouldn’t it be c35 for crash?
Crash-130
“Flight”
You can see all the money you spent acquiring one of these fly away when they crash, so it technically counts
The “-16” denotes that they can use the same clips.
That’s right, gun nerds. Clips.
I think every part of me clenched when I read that… bravo comrade, bravo.
wow okay so they’re literally throwing a tantrum
No, they’ve tried to set expectations, but people aren’t listening and are inventing their own timelines and outcomes. That’s why officials in UA are upset, because it affects perception and therefore, support from allies in their defense.
They made attacks on a defensive line, reached a trench, the Russians pushed them back, and now they are cheering?
Tbf those “critics” are the same “some of you may die” filth, no? The same bastards who started the slaughter to begin with
fucking incredible
LOL they’re throwing a tantrum!
Same energy
Friend your critics are your biggest suppliers, they want you to die taking as many Russians as possible, it was never to win the war it’s to make Russia bleed.
The problem of democracies: you can’t just force media to shut up like in China or Russia.
