I was talking this with a friend and we were checking where homosexuality is criminalized and we realized there is a correlation with muslim countries.

  • electrogamerman@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
    32·
    1 year ago

    Yes. You have to fight for lgbt rights against everyone unfortunately. It’s not a matter of religion, it’s a matter of idiots attack any minority.

    Im sorry but I am not going to fight for rights for people that are against lgbt rights. That will only bring the removal of lgbt rights in the future.

    You may not realize it, but lgbt and Muslims are in the same boat. Fighting eachother will only make fascists happy. But once one will be bleeding to death, the other will be the new target. They only care about having a minority to blame for all the problems, so they have people to beat to death. It won’t solve any problem, but that’s how fascism work.

    I 100% agree with you here about fascism. Unfortunately, LGBT are at a disadvantage here, as Muslisms are clearly against LGBT rights. LGBT rights in West Europe are not perfect, but at least we have some and we are still fighting for them, we cannot bring groups that are clearly against them.

    You don’t fight intolerance with intolerance

    Unfortunately, you do. There is a thing called the paradox of tolerance:

    Philosopher Karl Popper described the paradox of tolerance as the seemingly counterintuitive idea that “in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.” Essentially, if a so-called tolerant society permits the existence of intolerant philosophies, it is no longer tolerant.

    You cannot fight intolerance with tolerance.

    • bouh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      1 year ago

      Ok, you’re actually acting like all Muslims are against lgbt. You’re half a fascist already.

      • electrogamerman@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
        32·
        1 year ago

        you’re actually acting like all Muslims are against lgbt.

        and that’s why the maps are a good source of information. The laws of muslim countries against LGBT doenst help to think otherwise.

        • bouh@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          1 year ago

          Those countries are not democracies. You understand what that means don’t you?

          • electrogamerman@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
            41·
            1 year ago

            That doesnt matter at all. The point is, muslims are taught to be against homosexuality from childhood. If thats right or not, if thats a democracy or not, etc it doesnt matter. Muslims are against homosexuality. Dont come and say “but thats not all muslims”, because yes the majority of them are.

      • Seriouslyblack@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        Way to completely ignore everything else they were saying. You’re determined to be right even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.