“wow you’re against world poverty? give me actionable policy that solves world poverty or your stance isn’t valid”
We’re (somehow) still deciding between ourselves whether or not propagandizing children is a good thing or not. Why would we discuss solutions to a problem you inexplicably can’t even admit is a bad thing?
We are still trying to figure out what you actually want, besides vent your general malaise and frustration.
It sounds like you want to disallow deducting charitable contributions from taxable income for corps, is that right?
What about charity contributions from individuals? Bill gates has whitewashed his image real effectively this way.
Or specifically contributions to schools?
Also you didn’t respond to the fact that many private schools are for profit corps themselves.
i just don’t know what you are proposing besides a generic “protect the children” statement that isn’t productive. This is your big chance. What do you propose?
First I would have the FCC reign in Fox News disinformation because we’ll probably never get anywhere when 100 million Americans are being brainwashed daily
Campaign finance reform
Term limits and maybe age limits in public office
Ranked voting to help get rid of the two party system
It would be great to somehow change corporate governance to require them to prioritize all stakeholders and not just shareholders but I don’t know how to do this
Maybe a requirement for publicly traded companies to have one seat on the board of directors be elected by the employees to represent their interests, perhaps a requirement that maybe 10% of shares issued and outstanding be owned by said employees
Some reasonable and actionable ideas to chew on. None have anything to do with tax. The comic and this conversation have pretty much nothing to do with tax so idk wtf is going on here except that you’re generally pissed off. And, as I said from the beginning, im not surprised because there’s tons of ignorant people like you on lemmy who are very loud about their uninformed opinions and don’t bring any actual solutions to the table.
given that you actually haven’t been able to directly disagree (no, talking vaguely around the subject doesn’t count) with a single thing I’ve said, this is a fun statement to make
i also like how this discussion simultaneously
has nothing to do with tax
has everything to do with tax and that that’s why you’re the expert and why i need to listen to you
You haven’t even said anything to agree or disagree with! Lmao goddamn you are thick. No comments about my suggestions and again with the general malaise. I dunno what you want except to bitch. Pretty much done here unless you can actually add something of value to the conversation, there’s not much left here it’s like I’m talking to a wall. As usual.
at first i thought you were just being intentionally obtuse in the classic Reddit™ argument style where you don’t really understand how to back up a position, so you just disagree with everything the other person says
but now i’m slightly concerned at your apparent inability to like…comprehend words…?
e.g., i’ve said:
you don’t have any problem with corporate influence over what children learn in schools
most people would actually find that statement easy to disagree with. very easy, in fact.
but you’re really seeming to struggle for some reason
are you like…okay?
(in case you somehow missed it the numerous other times i’ve clarified, we’re discussing whether or not propagandizing to children is a good thing or not…at least we were until you started just straight up inventing my side of the conversation)
First I would have the FCC reign in Fox News disinformation because we’ll probably never get anywhere when 100 million Americans are being brainwashed daily
Campaign finance reform
Term limits and maybe age limits in public office
Ranked voting to help get rid of the two party system
It would be great to somehow change corporate governance to require them to prioritize all stakeholders and not just shareholders but I don’t know how to do this
Maybe a requirement for publicly traded companies to have one seat on the board of directors be elected by the employees to represent their interests, perhaps a requirement that maybe 10% of shares issued and outstanding be owned by said employees
Disappointing. I thought that’s a pretty reasonable start.
Sounds like you’re against private schools (corporate owned) and deductions for charity contributions (unpopular opinion).
OP has nothing to do with tax. My original point. (I think, it’s been a lot of tiresome bickering with you and you’re too far gone.)
You’re angry about education policy and corporate governance, not tax policy. Get your act straight before you go talking shit about stuff you don’t understand.
I’m not retracting anything. I want to know what you want in your own words. Actionable policy.
“wow you’re against world poverty? give me actionable policy that solves world poverty or your stance isn’t valid”
We’re (somehow) still deciding between ourselves whether or not propagandizing children is a good thing or not. Why would we discuss solutions to a problem you inexplicably can’t even admit is a bad thing?
We are still trying to figure out what you actually want, besides vent your general malaise and frustration.
It sounds like you want to disallow deducting charitable contributions from taxable income for corps, is that right?
What about charity contributions from individuals? Bill gates has whitewashed his image real effectively this way.
Or specifically contributions to schools?
Also you didn’t respond to the fact that many private schools are for profit corps themselves.
i just don’t know what you are proposing besides a generic “protect the children” statement that isn’t productive. This is your big chance. What do you propose?
given that the above is crystal clear, at this point I’m just interested in watching the imaginary argument you’re having inside your head unfold
Here, I’ll start for you:
First I would have the FCC reign in Fox News disinformation because we’ll probably never get anywhere when 100 million Americans are being brainwashed daily
Campaign finance reform
Term limits and maybe age limits in public office
Ranked voting to help get rid of the two party system
It would be great to somehow change corporate governance to require them to prioritize all stakeholders and not just shareholders but I don’t know how to do this
Maybe a requirement for publicly traded companies to have one seat on the board of directors be elected by the employees to represent their interests, perhaps a requirement that maybe 10% of shares issued and outstanding be owned by said employees
Some reasonable and actionable ideas to chew on. None have anything to do with tax. The comic and this conversation have pretty much nothing to do with tax so idk wtf is going on here except that you’re generally pissed off. And, as I said from the beginning, im not surprised because there’s tons of ignorant people like you on lemmy who are very loud about their uninformed opinions and don’t bring any actual solutions to the table.
Your move chief.
given that you actually haven’t been able to directly disagree (no, talking vaguely around the subject doesn’t count) with a single thing I’ve said, this is a fun statement to make
i also like how this discussion simultaneously
You haven’t even said anything to agree or disagree with! Lmao goddamn you are thick. No comments about my suggestions and again with the general malaise. I dunno what you want except to bitch. Pretty much done here unless you can actually add something of value to the conversation, there’s not much left here it’s like I’m talking to a wall. As usual.
at first i thought you were just being intentionally obtuse in the classic Reddit™ argument style where you don’t really understand how to back up a position, so you just disagree with everything the other person says
but now i’m slightly concerned at your apparent inability to like…comprehend words…?
e.g., i’ve said:
most people would actually find that statement easy to disagree with. very easy, in fact.
but you’re really seeming to struggle for some reason
are you like…okay?
(in case you somehow missed it the numerous other times i’ve clarified, we’re discussing whether or not propagandizing to children is a good thing or not…at least we were until you started just straight up inventing my side of the conversation)
No comment regarding any of this?
Disappointing. I thought that’s a pretty reasonable start.
Sounds like you’re against private schools (corporate owned) and deductions for charity contributions (unpopular opinion).
OP has nothing to do with tax. My original point. (I think, it’s been a lot of tiresome bickering with you and you’re too far gone.)
You’re angry about education policy and corporate governance, not tax policy. Get your act straight before you go talking shit about stuff you don’t understand.