“But it wasn’t out of evil, it was just practical!”
“That’s not how monarchies work, you have to end the line then and there”
Nah they’re totally right, there’s never been a monarchy that’s ended without killing the entire family. Except for all the ones that have.
This is pretty nuts. I feel sorry for the guy, he just wanted to debate politics and instead had to defend why shooting the children was a monstrous act whether you could rationalise it or not… You’ve still shot kids.
Only found out about Hexbear the other day and it seems like an odd place. I consider myself left wing politically but these guys sound like they just want to be authoritarian. Weird
Yeah, i like the idea behind hexbear. A place for left leaning people to gather. But the reality is its just another place for toxic people to have an echo chamber
From what I’ve seen, I gather that they are authoritarians who have seen that some historical and present day authoritarian dictators have used socialist rhetoric and trappings, and so they do the same. But they don’t care about the socialism part one whit, all they care about is the authoritarianism.
That and contrarianism and anti-west sentiment. “The west is bad because it is bad, and anything that hurts the west is good (even if the thing hurting the west is the most evil fucking thing you can imagine)”.
I’m pretty far left too… but I’m very much anti-authoritarian left. I still believe in democracy, and dethroning kings of whatever sort, call it a president or call it a ceo. I rather despise those guys at hexbear.
I don’t get it, can someone explain ?
That’s the wall the Russian royal family was executed in front of. Those are bullet holes in the photo. Two of the Romanovs were underage children at 13 and 17 years of age when they were executed by the communists. In hexbear world this is fine because they may have hypothetically formed a counter revolution against the communists if they were allowed to live. They’re not wrong that this may have happened, they’re just dickheads for rationalizing why it’s ok to murder children.
Thanks, but what does it have to do with transphobia ?
what does it have to do with transphobia ?
Nothing, they are crazy.
I think they’re saying they won’t execute everyone from the west when they get to power, just the transphobes
And who are the transphobes? Everyone who doesn’t agree with everything they say. That spider-syndicalist (who can’t spell anarcho-) in that thread is right to be worried, they will repeat those same “mistakes” as the “mistakes” are baked into the core of them.
the first “get” is “understand this joke”
the second “get” is “have this happen to them”
Wow, pretty disturbing considering that on Hexbear I stated that in very particular about supporting each individuals prefered he or she or them pronouns, but I draw the line at neopronouns, and at that point they decided I was a mega transphobe anyway.
Not that there’s any chance of any of these basement dwellers getting real power, but eye opening to the radicalization that can happen in online echo chambers.
Royalty always travels separately for that very reason though.
17 isn’t really a child, I must point out. Wars have been started by 17 year-old rulers. It’s more unforgivable that the daughters and son of the Tsar had done nothing worthy of death, unlike the Tsar and Tsarina, than their youth.
Can you go into more detail what you mean? it sounds like you’re fine with child death.
I mean, to a degree. I accept that collateral damage includes child death, as in with the strategic bombing campaigns of WW2 which targeted industrial areas (not supporting the terror bombing campaigns - those were murder, plain and simple). I also accept that the difference between a 17 year-old death camp guard and 18 year-old death camp guard is so small as to be practically worthless.
Age modifies responsibility, it isn’t a simple boolean for culpability. We would regard, and rightly so, a 10 year-old as having little-to-no capability for realistic moral responsibility. But how responsible is a 16 year-old who takes up arms to murder Jews? The answer, I would say, is not the same ‘Nil’ I would say about a 10 year old.
If Anastasia had knowingly given orders to shoot down protesting workers, I would be entirely onboard with executing a 17 year-old royal, within the context of an unsteady revolution before the information age. She did no such thing, nor was she ever even in a position to do any such thing. As such, the crime in murdering the 17 year-old Tsarevna Anastasia was predominantly not of her age, but that she, personally, had done nothing wrong, unlike the Tsar and Tsarina.
On the other hand, the crime in murdering the 13 year-old Tsarevich Alexei was predominantly his age, as, though he also was entirely innocent, even if he was guilty it would not be reasonable to hold him to a standard which merited the possibility of death for his moral transgressions.
They’re basically saying that it was necessary to kill the children of Nicholas II
I say this unironically, they need Jesus. They need something or someone to give them good morals, because whatever morals they have just aren’t working.
Taking extremists and adding religious zeal tends to end poorly.
The terminally online don’t need Jesus, they need grass to touch.
I can’t think of anything worse than these shitty little zealots finding religion.
You’ve heard of CHRISTOFASCISTS… now prepare for… CHRISTOTANKIES!
I always picture them as teenagers like 4chan trolls. Most of them will grow up hopefully.
No Jesus needed. Just install the emotional damage patch. It comes pre-loaded on a stick that is shoved… Well, you think of the install procedure yourself
Killing someone because they may or may not do something in the future. Who does this remind me of?
Wowie. That’s one of the most violent things I’ve seen from them, good find.
