Drones to fly without spotters on the ground monitoring route and skies for other aircraft

  • ME5SENGER_24
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    1 year ago

    I can’t wait for the articles about homemade anti-drone net guns becoming the new porch pirate’s weapon of choice

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        1 year ago

        Porch pirates and crotchety old people and anyone who doesn’t like to hear screaming propellers outside of their living room window.

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          1 year ago

          There’s some new toroidal propeller designs which actually greatly reduce the loudness and the offensiveness of the noise.

          Who knows if they’ll use them tho

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            1 year ago

            I’ve seen them and they look awesome. I really hope they do use them, because drones are disgustingly noisy.

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      1 year ago

      I don’t see that happening.

      It’s got to be easier to jam these things’ signals electronically than to launch a physical net. 🤔

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        1 year ago

        Unlicensed use of radio spectrum is very illegal and would draw a lot more attention than a net cannon.

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          Pretty sure stealing drones is illegal no matter how you do it, and people can see where a net is launched from.

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            1 year ago

            Yea ok stealing a drone is one thing, fucking with radio signals is a whole nother level of “you fucked up”

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              I’m not saying which is “worse” I just think one would be easier and harder to get caught doing.

              You have to have a whole apparatus to launch a net, you have to get a net, people can see the physical net move through the air and tell where it launched from. You have to store a giant net launching gun.

              But I’ve seen people make jammers for some $10 worth of parts.

              Signals can be tracked, sure (we’ve all seen Pump Up The Volume) but by the time the FCC gets to where it was turned on you, your new toaster, and your free drone parts aren’t there anymore.

              This is not a moral stance, it’s an opinion on logistics.

              • WarmSoda
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                1 year ago

                I think a baseball bat might do the trick. Why get fancy?

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                  Because it has to be on the ground for that and you may as well just goink it off the porch at that point.

                  A jammer can bring the drone down anywhere along its path.

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                    1 year ago

                    Kids are going to be taking pot shots at these things. They won’t be using radios for it. That’s all I’m saying.

                    I don’t see these lasting very long either way.

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            and people can see where a net is launched from

            Yeah, if they happen to be watching at the time.

            Broadcasting a signal to block GPS is like sticking a big red X on your exact location, and they are always watching the radio waves.

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        what’s to jam? It’s not like these would be Radio controlled.

        Their onboard navigation will take them from point A to B to A.

        You gonna jam/fake GPS signals?

        No one is risking the big book thrown at you for GPS jamming for some random package.

        And you’re not launching a net high enough to get these.

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          No one is risking the big book thrown at you for GPS jamming for some random package.

          I think criminals might.

          To the rest of your post: I don’t understand how drones or GPS work so …maybe? How hard is it to jam GPS/how detectable is it?

          Is “illegal as fuck” the only thing stopping people or are there actual technical limitations stopping it from being tried?

          Then going back to my original post, are those technical limitations greater or lesser than the technical limitations of building a net gun?

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            How hard is it to jam GPS/how detectable is it?

            Hard,

            Easily detectable.

            Extremely illegal as fuck…

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            You have to broadcast a malicious signal (noise) strong enough to overpower the existing gps signals, which wouldn’t be that difficult to do as gps signals are weak and come from far away.

            But it’s super duper illegal and would be trivial for local coppers or military to find you and wreck your world as you would be broadcasting a strong signal that clearly indicates your location.

            So yeah, I do think most of what prevents people from doing this kind of thing more is just the fact that your local police/military will fuck you up for doing it and it will be real obvious to anyone near you who did the thing. They really don’t like people messing with their gps.

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        1 year ago

        Eh, in the US it will just be a shotgun.

        I imagine a drone is relatively easy to shoot down with bird shot if it’s not actively attempting to evade you.

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          Is that them things they shoot skeet with?

          I agree americans love they guns, but shooting in the air is dangerous and may damage your new air fryer.

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            That’s why you use your old rusty barn shotgun with rock salt.

            There are also all sorts of non lethal shotgun rounds if you would rather not corrode your gun.

            • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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              That’s for stopping young Bruce Willis, not taking down a drone.

              And storing it in a barn is no excuse to allow a gun to rust.