barbara-pit for Cringetopia users

Also I hope people in here are decent about plurals. r/fakedisordercringe is another one of the “be normal debatebro-l” instances

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    14·
    10 months ago

    It’s similar to the vulnerability that young eggs (trans people that haven’t realised it yet) have to grooming by the far right.

    They give them attention in a certain set of specific ways and then pipeline them into right wing online spaces and behaviours through various targeted grooming methods. I use the word grooming here because it’s specifically the young teens that are most vulnerable to it and the main core of the people targeted.

    I don’t know how the issue should be addressed. I’m just highlighting it as an issue. We do need to avoid invalidating self-diagnosis autism but also need to counter the shitheads.

    • vomit_sounds [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      8·
      10 months ago

      This is not meant as a rebuke or lecture, mostly thinking aloud.

      I am unsure about reclaiming terms from the shitheads. I suppose it is necessary.

      Arguments of positionality are a curse and there are counters to them, but they need to be expanded. For example, tokenism and showing how that person is harming their own group would be a start.

      Fakeclaiming requires a lot of looking at individual cases to be even semi viable. It is in my experience mostly harmful.

      Arguments should be dealt with in a principaled manner while recognizing identities in a way that stops presupposing that Identity X has a right to opinion Y, I think.

      This is not meant as a diss, I just kinda feel tired being suspicious all the time and wanted to give some thoughts(funny thing for a 1 month account to say, but I have been around for some time, I just occassionally delete my acc bc of OPsec, believe me 🥺)

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        10 months ago

        It’s ok I understand what you’re getting at - trying to think about solutions to the problem while avoiding causing more problems in the process.

        I’m somewhat stuck with it. It’s easy to see the problem and it’s also easy to see how our usual tactics for countering it are insufficient without also hurting actual autistic people. It deserves some longterm thought, perhaps people will eventually start to find some solutions.