• CerealKiller01@lemmy.world
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    So, some context - this group is called “Neturei Karta”. They are Anti-Zionist in the sense that they believe that Jews aren’t allowed to form a self governing state until the Messiah arrives and will rule in god’s will. The Palestinians themselves is meaningless to them (much like Iran’s Anti-Zionist. As in, their leader actually met with the Iranian president some years ago). This is a more extreme form of the belief that a secular Jewish state has no right to exist, which in itself is a more extreme form of the belief that a secular Jewish state has the right to exist only to act as a platform for a religious Jewish state. The latter ideology is shared by a large part of the current far right government of Israel.

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    Anti-zionism is anti-semitism

    Israel should take over the Gaza strip before the Palestinians kill more innocent civilians

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      So no such thing as an innocent Palestinian?

      Keep supporting genocide of Palestinians then, good thing Israel learned what a bad thing genocide was during the Holocaust.

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        If anything, there’s no such thing as an innocent Israeli settler. Israeli settlements are illegal.

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          Like they don’t have enough land, they need to keep squeezing Palestinians into smaller and smaller open air prisons.

          Taking their homes, destroying their schools, blowing up apartment buildings.

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              Yes, the Palestinians framing those Israeli jets firing missiles into buildings.

              Congrats on not using the obvious "there were terrorists in the building hiding behind schoolchildren " excuse.

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                framing those Israeli jets firing missiles into buildings.

                They are framing that. Anyway, it’s a war zone

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                  It’s an occupied open air prison.

                  Can Palestinians leave? Can they build their homes on their own land? Can they build schools? Can they receive aid from other countries unimpeded by the occupying force? Do they get kicked out of their homes by armed settlers/soldiers?

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        The palestinian government is killing it’s own people in an attempt to frame Israel

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          I appreciate the children in that video being more informed than you are.

          Occam’s razor, the simplest explanation is the correct one. The country that is an occupying force is the one that’s killing the people being occupied.

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            The children in the video are wearing the most uncomfortable clothes in the world. I know their type

            the simplest explanation is the correct one.

            What are you smoking?

            Israel was given the country by the UN after WW2, it is a historic place for the Jews and it isn’t occupying anything it doesn’t belong. The territory comes from the 6 day war which happened because Egypt and other countries were attacking Israel

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              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54116567

              There were people already there. They were always there even back when Jews were there before they wandered.

              The borders in all of the maps in that article besides the pre 1945 one always show there being Arab areas and Jewish areas.

              Show me a map in that article that doesn’t have areas with Palestinian territory.

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      I understand that being raised in an insular and homogenous community can make it difficult to accept that other people with the same religion hold different beliefs than you, but you do not get to speak for all Jews.